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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jdinny" data-source="post: 108887" data-attributes="member: 875">get the 10 minute retriever book.this is a simple task but in the field is a lot more of a concept than we realize.before teaching "casting" hand signals your dog needs to know the difference between a "blind" retrieve and a "marked" retrieve. Blind= he cant see itmarked= he marked it and is ready to rocki use "get out" as my command. so for a marked bird i line him up and say "get out" for a blind retrieve i line him up facing the downed bird and say "line" followed by "get out"seems basic and easy but by me saying "line" he knows theres a bird out there. again this is teamwork and accomplished after hours of traiing. when you start casting you need him to "force to back" or trust that when you send him out 100,200,300 yards theres a bird out there. you simply do this by placing a dummy at 5 10 15 20 25 etc yards and working each day, week until hes going 200 yards or better. it helps to have a tree row, fence line etc when starting to help keep his line, progressing to open fields.when that's accomplished you can start the fun stuff. think of a baseball field. hes pitcher you catcher and the bases. put a pile of dummies at 1st, 2nd and 3rd. dogs will pick up 1st and 3rd easily. 2nd as others said blow your whistle ( sit command) if hes not trained to whistle do it unless you wanna be the crazy running screaming at your dog guy to listen when hes 200 yards away) he should be facing you say you release comman 9 get out) as you step forward 2-3 steps and raise your Rt hand high over head. it also helps your dogs when going Rt and Lt to walk a couple paces and with Rt arm put out to go Rt and Lt to go left. sorry for the length please pm if interested. there is many many steps in between that need to be done to not confuse the dog instead of teacing it one thing then going backwards to re-learn it.- - - Updated - - -the " forcing to back " part can be real frustrating but work hard on it. think about it your dog isn't magically placed by the bird for you to send signals he needs to take a "line" as far as possible then start with the whistle, hand signals/casting worki know clear as mud when reading it.  i have multiple DVDs which can help you picture it better and the book if you wanna borrow it.  just pm i don't need it currently. im just working my 10 and 5 year old labs so all just refresher course for me this summer</blockquote>

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