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<blockquote data-quote="njsimonson" data-source="post: 247986" data-attributes="member: 1507"><p>Well, as expected the NEW SB 2315 AS AMENDED is EVEN WORSE (and waaay sneakier) than the original. It has now become more confusing and anti-hunter than the original version. There are glaring issues in the new effort slopped together by Senator Erbele in his desperation to get a win for his big money, special interest buddies and apparently now <strong>HIS CORPORATE HUNTING RETREAT FRIENDS AS WELL!!! </strong></p><p></p><p><a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=1P5qrgkE_5HpHwy03uaO8zRP0Nm0Ty2ol" target="_blank">Here’s the current version of the amendment in PDF (not final released version...but I'm guessing it's pretty close).</a></p><p></p><p><u>Here are the highlights:</u></p><p></p><p>I. THERE WOULD NOW BE THREE LEVELS OF POSTING IN ND.</p><p>That’s right, under the Amendment, we’d have THREE types of land: Posted, Unposted…and…something like posted which requires permission (which is what posted land is NOW), creating further confusion that in addition to your app, platbook or GPS chip, would require cellphone access AND visual confirmation to determine is the land:</p><p></p><p>1) Posted Land where you CAN’T call and ask;</p><p>2) Unposted Land which you can access;</p><p>3) Or this third level that is technically posted, but you can call and ask</p><p></p><p>This new three-level program creates confusion and an added layer that supposedly will be managed by a database and an advisory group (with NO public input, only government agents and their designees). In the end, most landowners would still have to post their land</p><p></p><p>II. THE DATABASE. </p><p>The proposed database, besides being managed by the same folks who came up with this amendment, <strong><u>IS NOT MANDATORY </u></strong>for counties to participate in (“…whose counties meet the specifications…”). Therefore, counties like Ransom, which do not release landowner info and phone numbers as part of their GIS program, <strong><u>WILL NOT BE PART OF IT</u></strong>, further fragmenting the state and rendering the database unreliable and less useful. This database concept has been tried in Sioux County and FAILED MISERABLY, with only a small percentage of landowners participating. Expect the same here, only sportsmen get to bear the expense, and get no input!</p><p></p><p>FINALLY – and the WORST GUT-PUNCH OF ALL --- ALL UNPOSTED LANDS ARE NOW EXPLICITLY UP FOR THE USE OF GUIDES AND OUTFITTERS TO TAKE THEIR RICH CLIENTS HUNTING AT THE EXPENSE OF THE CITIZEN HUNTER!</p><p></p><p>III. UNPOSTED LANDS EXPRESSLY OPEN TO GUIDES & OUTFITTERS</p><p></p><p>A sneaky addition in the Amendment SELLS YOUR HUNTING RIGHTS to commercial operators throughout the state. </p><p></p><p>>>>This is how it will read with the amendment</p><p><strong>20.1-03-42. Guiding on prohibited lands.</strong></p><p></p><p>“…If <strong><u>private land is not posted</u></strong> against hunting or trespassing under section 20.1-01-17 or designated as closed to hunters or open to hunters upon receipt of permission under section 20.1-18-02, <strong><u>a person may act as a hunting guide or hunting outfitter on the land.</u></strong> “</p><p></p><p>KISS YOUR HUNTING ACCESS GOODBYE AND BEND OVER FOR THE RICH! THAT’S WHAT THE NEW SB 2315 IS ALL ABOUT --- WHAT A “COMPROMISE” BY ERBELE AND THE STOCKMEN – STICKING IT TO PUBLIC HUNTING AGAIN WITH A SYSTEM THAT WILL DECREASE ACCESS, INCREASE CONFUSION, TAKE OVERSIGHT FROM THE PEOPLE AND SELL PUBLIC HUNTING TO THE RICH!!!</p><p></p><p>TIME TO MOUNT UP AND CALL AND EMAIL YOUR LEGISLATORS. IF YOU DIDN’T THINK SB 2315 COULD GET ANY WORSE – IT HAS!!!!! IT'S ONE UGLY HOGHOUSE BILL! </p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.legis.nd.gov/contact-my-legislators" target="_blank">https://www.legis.nd.gov/contact-my-legislators</a></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH]32501[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="njsimonson, post: 247986, member: 1507"] Well, as expected the NEW SB 2315 AS AMENDED is EVEN WORSE (and waaay sneakier) than the original. It has now become more confusing and anti-hunter than the original version. There are glaring issues in the new effort slopped together by Senator Erbele in his desperation to get a win for his big money, special interest buddies and apparently now [B]HIS CORPORATE HUNTING RETREAT FRIENDS AS WELL!!! [/B] [URL="https://drive.google.com/open?id=1P5qrgkE_5HpHwy03uaO8zRP0Nm0Ty2ol"]Here’s the current version of the amendment in PDF (not final released version...but I'm guessing it's pretty close).[/URL] [U]Here are the highlights:[/U] I. THERE WOULD NOW BE THREE LEVELS OF POSTING IN ND. That’s right, under the Amendment, we’d have THREE types of land: Posted, Unposted…and…something like posted which requires permission (which is what posted land is NOW), creating further confusion that in addition to your app, platbook or GPS chip, would require cellphone access AND visual confirmation to determine is the land: 1) Posted Land where you CAN’T call and ask; 2) Unposted Land which you can access; 3) Or this third level that is technically posted, but you can call and ask This new three-level program creates confusion and an added layer that supposedly will be managed by a database and an advisory group (with NO public input, only government agents and their designees). In the end, most landowners would still have to post their land II. THE DATABASE. The proposed database, besides being managed by the same folks who came up with this amendment, [B][U]IS NOT MANDATORY [/U][/B]for counties to participate in (“…whose counties meet the specifications…”). Therefore, counties like Ransom, which do not release landowner info and phone numbers as part of their GIS program, [B][U]WILL NOT BE PART OF IT[/U][/B], further fragmenting the state and rendering the database unreliable and less useful. This database concept has been tried in Sioux County and FAILED MISERABLY, with only a small percentage of landowners participating. Expect the same here, only sportsmen get to bear the expense, and get no input! FINALLY – and the WORST GUT-PUNCH OF ALL --- ALL UNPOSTED LANDS ARE NOW EXPLICITLY UP FOR THE USE OF GUIDES AND OUTFITTERS TO TAKE THEIR RICH CLIENTS HUNTING AT THE EXPENSE OF THE CITIZEN HUNTER! III. UNPOSTED LANDS EXPRESSLY OPEN TO GUIDES & OUTFITTERS A sneaky addition in the Amendment SELLS YOUR HUNTING RIGHTS to commercial operators throughout the state. >>>This is how it will read with the amendment [B]20.1-03-42. Guiding on prohibited lands.[/B] “…If [B][U]private land is not posted[/U][/B] against hunting or trespassing under section 20.1-01-17 or designated as closed to hunters or open to hunters upon receipt of permission under section 20.1-18-02, [B][U]a person may act as a hunting guide or hunting outfitter on the land.[/U][/B] “ KISS YOUR HUNTING ACCESS GOODBYE AND BEND OVER FOR THE RICH! THAT’S WHAT THE NEW SB 2315 IS ALL ABOUT --- WHAT A “COMPROMISE” BY ERBELE AND THE STOCKMEN – STICKING IT TO PUBLIC HUNTING AGAIN WITH A SYSTEM THAT WILL DECREASE ACCESS, INCREASE CONFUSION, TAKE OVERSIGHT FROM THE PEOPLE AND SELL PUBLIC HUNTING TO THE RICH!!! TIME TO MOUNT UP AND CALL AND EMAIL YOUR LEGISLATORS. IF YOU DIDN’T THINK SB 2315 COULD GET ANY WORSE – IT HAS!!!!! IT'S ONE UGLY HOGHOUSE BILL! [URL]https://www.legis.nd.gov/contact-my-legislators[/URL] [ATTACH=CONFIG]32501._xfImport[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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