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<blockquote data-quote="Whisky" data-source="post: 248059" data-attributes="member: 661"><p>I have been doing a lot of thinking on this issue. And up until this point have stayed out of these conversations. In fact when I saw the amended bill yesterday I fired off my first email in 10 years to the Senators asking for a no vote on this bill. While this particular bill is garbage, the next one may not be. It's my prediction that ND will eventually end up as a no trespass state. </p><p></p><p> So when that does happen I hope everybody can come together to figure out a way to keep some GOOD hunting land open to the public. We need to. This will take more PLOTS money, simple as that. I have talked to a few of my landowner friends and while they are not in favor of this specific bill, they are in favor of a no trespass bill for ND. They, like many, are fed up with the BS from slob hunters, and trespassers getting off on technicalities, among other things. I can understand where they are coming from. If you can't understand at least part of their issues, you are part of the problem. You should just keep your mouth shut, as you do no good for nobody. Honestly ask yourselves these questions. If you owned a bunch of land, and dealt with a bunch of BS from hunters year after year, would you still keep your land open to the public? Likely no. So, what would it take to make it worth your while to keep it open? </p><p></p><p>It's time to face the facts boys. ND will never be like it was. Our kids will not experience it like we did. ND will become a no trespass state at some point, and it will take money to keep any good private land open to public hunting. The whining and entitlement attitude does nothing for nobody. The sooner we accept that the sooner we can start working on ways to mitigate the damage. </p><p></p><p>It has been brought up many times on here, PLOTS. We need to figure out how to get more money into it. We need to figure out how we can get bigger, more connected tracts of land into it. I have hunted on a lot of Block Mgmt in MT, and while I agree with dirty that we won't have that quality of access program, we can try to do better then where we are at now.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Maybe a better question to ask is, who's posts are they cherry picking? And are they improving or hurting hunter/landowner relations? Are they representing my thoughts as a hunter in a good way?</p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Davey, no offense, but there are also landowners who make other landowners look like shit. It goes both ways. Maybe keep that in mind too.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Whisky, post: 248059, member: 661"] I have been doing a lot of thinking on this issue. And up until this point have stayed out of these conversations. In fact when I saw the amended bill yesterday I fired off my first email in 10 years to the Senators asking for a no vote on this bill. While this particular bill is garbage, the next one may not be. It's my prediction that ND will eventually end up as a no trespass state. So when that does happen I hope everybody can come together to figure out a way to keep some GOOD hunting land open to the public. We need to. This will take more PLOTS money, simple as that. I have talked to a few of my landowner friends and while they are not in favor of this specific bill, they are in favor of a no trespass bill for ND. They, like many, are fed up with the BS from slob hunters, and trespassers getting off on technicalities, among other things. I can understand where they are coming from. If you can't understand at least part of their issues, you are part of the problem. You should just keep your mouth shut, as you do no good for nobody. Honestly ask yourselves these questions. If you owned a bunch of land, and dealt with a bunch of BS from hunters year after year, would you still keep your land open to the public? Likely no. So, what would it take to make it worth your while to keep it open? It's time to face the facts boys. ND will never be like it was. Our kids will not experience it like we did. ND will become a no trespass state at some point, and it will take money to keep any good private land open to public hunting. The whining and entitlement attitude does nothing for nobody. The sooner we accept that the sooner we can start working on ways to mitigate the damage. It has been brought up many times on here, PLOTS. We need to figure out how to get more money into it. We need to figure out how we can get bigger, more connected tracts of land into it. I have hunted on a lot of Block Mgmt in MT, and while I agree with dirty that we won't have that quality of access program, we can try to do better then where we are at now. [COLOR=silver][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] Maybe a better question to ask is, who's posts are they cherry picking? And are they improving or hurting hunter/landowner relations? Are they representing my thoughts as a hunter in a good way? [COLOR=silver][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] Davey, no offense, but there are also landowners who make other landowners look like shit. It goes both ways. Maybe keep that in mind too. [/QUOTE]
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