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<blockquote data-quote="Boondoggle" data-source="post: 248206" data-attributes="member: 6537"><p>I posted these stats in the other No Trespass Law post regarding version 1 of SB 2315.</p><p></p><p><em><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Here are a few key things I gathered from the fiscal note:</span></span></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">-$250K to build the database and mapping application.</span></span></em></p><p><em><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">-$892 for 6 new FTE to administer landowner agreements and database/mapping application.</span></span></em></p><p><em><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">-Add them up and it's $1.142M for 2019-2021 biennium</span></span></em></p><p><em><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">-$892K for the 2021-2023 biennium (without database construction)</span></span></em></p><p><em><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">-Average those numbers and it's roughly $500K/year for the first 4 years.</span></span></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">-The fiscal agreement estimates 3,166 posting agreements, equating to a cost of roughly $160/posting agreement.</span></span></em></p><p><em><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></em></p><p><em><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #333333">Applying version 1 numbers above to version X that we're on now, and assuming an average 300 acres/agreement as stated in the fiscal note, then the database cost is roughly $0.53/acre ($160/300 acres). Posting one section of land into the database would cost approximately $340/section for the database term length (annually?). Where's that money going to come from? The hunter? The other 600,000 citizens of ND? The supporters of the database?</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #333333"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #333333">I don't own land to post but I'll estimate very conservatively that it currently costs $100/section annually with labor, equipment and paper signs. I'll also estimate it will cost $100/section of landowners time to fiddle around with an online database form. The cost of posting signs currently vs posting in an online database is a wash. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #333333"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #333333">This is extremely inefficient, and the landowners would continue to have trespassers, slob hunters, animal rights activists, protesters, etc. to contend with. SB 2315 is a waste of time and money.</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Boondoggle, post: 248206, member: 6537"] I posted these stats in the other No Trespass Law post regarding version 1 of SB 2315. [I][COLOR=#333333][FONT=Verdana]Here are a few key things I gathered from the fiscal note:[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Verdana]-$250K to build the database and mapping application.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Verdana]-$892 for 6 new FTE to administer landowner agreements and database/mapping application.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Verdana]-Add them up and it's $1.142M for 2019-2021 biennium[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Verdana]-$892K for the 2021-2023 biennium (without database construction)[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Verdana]-Average those numbers and it's roughly $500K/year for the first 4 years.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Verdana]-The fiscal agreement estimates 3,166 posting agreements, equating to a cost of roughly $160/posting agreement. [/FONT][/COLOR][/I][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=#333333]Applying version 1 numbers above to version X that we're on now, and assuming an average 300 acres/agreement as stated in the fiscal note, then the database cost is roughly $0.53/acre ($160/300 acres). Posting one section of land into the database would cost approximately $340/section for the database term length (annually?). Where's that money going to come from? The hunter? The other 600,000 citizens of ND? The supporters of the database? I don't own land to post but I'll estimate very conservatively that it currently costs $100/section annually with labor, equipment and paper signs. I'll also estimate it will cost $100/section of landowners time to fiddle around with an online database form. The cost of posting signs currently vs posting in an online database is a wash. This is extremely inefficient, and the landowners would continue to have trespassers, slob hunters, animal rights activists, protesters, etc. to contend with. SB 2315 is a waste of time and money.[/COLOR][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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