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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dean nelson" data-source="post: 125152" data-attributes="member: 1305"><p>The migration shift is being drastically over simplified here. The snows are the best example since once upon a time they did the fall flight in one shot tundra to Tex. Then in the 50's they found that fields were the shit and started hitting them on the way south. People tend to look back at snows and say that such and such time frame is when they should be in such and such place. The fact is the snow goose fall flight has never been stable. In this area the first place to get them in large numbers was down in the Sand lake area then in the 80's it pushed north up into the DL area then by the 90's they shifted north to and over the border and west to J Clark and Des Lacs in ND and Estevan and white water in Canada. Now they have shifted as far as they can and pop out of the boreal forest from Brandon Manitoba up past the Quail Lakes area towards Saskatoon SK. Now it's taken some getting used to but the fall flight for the first time has become stable and you can pretty much bank on birds showing up in force around the 27th of Oct and especially if there is a full moon in there. This shift is not a product of new crops its a product of geese realizing they don't have to fly an extra thousand miles to get lunch so they head for the closest fields when they get to then it works out to around 10 miles a day for the general southerly movement of the flock till it gets a boot from the weather. It's not like geese are sitting in Canada looking at their watch and saying we need to wait ND's corn is still standing.   Now all that said corn does play a big roll in the river birds as does probably the most important crop.... soy beans. See when corn and barely get buried in the snow the beans get blown clear so the birds have a place to feed so they can stay longer. And that's the key here is the bigger birds AKA the mallards and geese are short stopping and its not a new thing and has been far better for ND then bad. Places like southern IL which used to be the Canada goose meca are now almost empty and the same is now happening in SD as we steal there's. Birds that stay north burn less energy and have far less hunting pressure and are first back to the potholes so get first pick of the best breading spots. Eventually birds that know to go south are replaced by birds that have no idea NE exist.As for a cap that is never going to happen again and that's just a fact. We had a huge push in the early 2000's and all we got was a measly 30,000 cap that lasted all of a year or two. We will never get back to that point again unless there is a dramatic change in the current trend and a slow increase in posted land just won't be enough. Best shot we might have had would have been at the peak of the oil boom since many of the business owners in the NW part of the state might have been to fight for the relatively small hunting dollers but even that would have been a huge uphill battle!</p></blockquote><p></p>

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