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<blockquote data-quote="Pigsticker" data-source="post: 44717" data-attributes="member: 209"><p>Well, where to start...</p><p></p><p>I for one have nary a negative thing to say about anybody on this site or the other one since like forever. I give everybody the benefit of the doubt and am cordial and kind. But here I see a strange man who single handedly ran another site into the ground and then comes over here to stir the pot after Vollmer created a free thinking website format that the sportsmen enjoy for those who left or were forced to leave the other site. I don't give two craps what Toby does in his free time but to come on here and stir the pot and try to screw up what Vollmer has created just pisses me off to no end. Ya Toby, I'll say it... I think you are a terrible person and honestly I think you enjoy mind games. I have absolutely NO sympathy for you if you are an alcoholic (if you really are one). You have more problems than that evidently. The only reason we saw your sniveling rant is because Vollmer checked into your IP address and caught you red handed. </p><p></p><p>In my personal opinion there is no room for you on this site but out of respect for Vollmers website I'm not gonna call for it. But if it were my site I'd ban your IP address. Your garbage isn't needed here. </p><p></p><p>And for the record, it pisses me off to no end to hear you use the term alcohol is a disease. No it's not. Its an addiction or illness and one that you can choose to quit (albeit by yourself or with help). I and many others who have real afflictions don't have the choice to quit our disease and get better. Yes, it may cause diseases but it's not a disease. Your friend who has cancer, they have a disease that they cannot control. Out of respect for them don't call your substance abuse and addiction a disease. You are responsible for what you put into your body. </p><p></p><p>FWIW, you need to go get some serious help and it's good that you have acknowledged that. Whether it's true or not that you're going to is another issue. You are obviously very good at lying, as I have sat back in the shadows on both sites and watched your behavior with others and listened to a bunch of the garbage you spewed. You clearly live by your own regulation and have no regard for the same morals most of us adhere to. I hate even writing a post like this but I've seen enough and had to call a spade a spade. Sorry to kick you while your down but to be honest, you kinda deserve it for the way you've treated your fellow outdoorsman. Best of luck to you man in your future. I hope you get the help that you need and get straightened out. You do deserve better than where you're at right now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pigsticker, post: 44717, member: 209"] Well, where to start... I for one have nary a negative thing to say about anybody on this site or the other one since like forever. I give everybody the benefit of the doubt and am cordial and kind. But here I see a strange man who single handedly ran another site into the ground and then comes over here to stir the pot after Vollmer created a free thinking website format that the sportsmen enjoy for those who left or were forced to leave the other site. I don't give two craps what Toby does in his free time but to come on here and stir the pot and try to screw up what Vollmer has created just pisses me off to no end. Ya Toby, I'll say it... I think you are a terrible person and honestly I think you enjoy mind games. I have absolutely NO sympathy for you if you are an alcoholic (if you really are one). You have more problems than that evidently. The only reason we saw your sniveling rant is because Vollmer checked into your IP address and caught you red handed. In my personal opinion there is no room for you on this site but out of respect for Vollmers website I'm not gonna call for it. But if it were my site I'd ban your IP address. Your garbage isn't needed here. And for the record, it pisses me off to no end to hear you use the term alcohol is a disease. No it's not. Its an addiction or illness and one that you can choose to quit (albeit by yourself or with help). I and many others who have real afflictions don't have the choice to quit our disease and get better. Yes, it may cause diseases but it's not a disease. Your friend who has cancer, they have a disease that they cannot control. Out of respect for them don't call your substance abuse and addiction a disease. You are responsible for what you put into your body. FWIW, you need to go get some serious help and it's good that you have acknowledged that. Whether it's true or not that you're going to is another issue. You are obviously very good at lying, as I have sat back in the shadows on both sites and watched your behavior with others and listened to a bunch of the garbage you spewed. You clearly live by your own regulation and have no regard for the same morals most of us adhere to. I hate even writing a post like this but I've seen enough and had to call a spade a spade. Sorry to kick you while your down but to be honest, you kinda deserve it for the way you've treated your fellow outdoorsman. Best of luck to you man in your future. I hope you get the help that you need and get straightened out. You do deserve better than where you're at right now. [/QUOTE]
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