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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gst" data-source="post: 147427" data-attributes="member: 373">Plains, backpedaling already.................Here is the history of the ND Beef Checkoff. <a href="http://www.ndbeef.org/ndbchistory.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.ndbeef.org/ndbchistory.aspx</a>As you can see "we" as in the people of ND or you had little to do with "creating" the Checkoff. Nor was it "created the beef check off to use when doing our state taxesbut hey thanks for the dollar you contributed, glad you were able to use what "we" (as in the beef producers of North Dakota) created to get a break on your taxes.- - - Updated - - -EyeI have shared the factual information of what you "get in return" for your tax dollar (likely pennies) that go to production ag program payments. It is actually a substantial return on your investment and one of the thing the govt has actually done that provides a return greater than what is paid back to the tax payer. This nations ag program, as most without such a big chip on their shoulder know, is a food security program. A while back on another site when plainsman was whining and making his wild claims I actually broke down the numbers as to what one pays to these subsidize you speak of out of your dollar paid in in taxes. We compared that amount to what the consumer saves a year in food costs over every other industrialized nation. What the tax payer "gets" in return is actually pretty substantial in savings. I suppose we could do away with the technologizes that have replaced people working on the farm to make you happy, but even with them, there are more people actually working in ag related professions and industries than every before. (maybe that is why the typical North Dakotan has never supported the positions you and plainsman have taken on ag related issues they vote on) I doubt you will bother to take the time off to go testify on something you seem so worked up over, and I doubt if you did you would have the balls to stand up and make the threats you do hiding behind your keyboard. And that is actually a good thing. That is the last thing those that will go testify against this bill need.- - - Updated - - -Soplains you are saying here a private landowner who may support this bill because he hopes it may end or at least reduce the number of incidents that happen every year regarding trespass on their property is "crapping on you"? Once again you fail to place the blame where it should......on those "sportsmen" that pull this crap that get others to the point of supporting this bill. Why doyou ignore that and complain about the farmer/rancher like you predictably do?- - - Updated - - -We never had idiots threatening all out war with the ag community then either now did we.............- - - Updated - - -Yep didn;t see much foolish shit like this back 30 years ago either.</blockquote>

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