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<blockquote data-quote="gst" data-source="post: 147497" data-attributes="member: 373"><p>So outside of BBQ kinda answering it, why have the others that have jumped down with both boots not addressed this simple question that some want desperately to portray this bill as? The question was asked to get people to stop and think about the rhetoric some are using, I have heard more than a few farmers at ball games and around since this is getting air time not too impressed with this kind of rhetoric. Once they have heard that kinda promotion of opposition to this bill many are asking the question what gives people the right to expect to come onto private property unless it is posted. </p><p></p><p>Most simply wish to avoid having to put up signs without realizing that if they do not wish to be bothered all fall they will have to still put up signs.<strong> Most of these farmers and ranchers have many friends from town that hunt their lands, they are not anti hunting and tire of hearing it.</strong> </p><p></p><p>The point of my comments quoting Mr. Mazahari is that while this bill will likely fail, it is gaining more support. Legislators are listening more and giving it more time than ever before becasue they are hearing more support than ever before. So when this bill comes back (want to bet whether it does) down the road a few years do you want it starting from a position of increased support then because of people spouting things now? It likely will pass at that point. </p><p></p><p>I will live with what ever passes. I will have to continue to post the good areas of habitat we have worked hard ot create for my family and friends to hunt in or be inundated with calls and people stopping in all fall so that and the fact the penalties will still not deter the jackasses not much would change for me outside of what my kids would have to go thru to do what I grew up doing. </p><p></p><p>so before people want to jump all over someone, take the time to answer this simple question. </p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">Odds are the people pushing this bill likely have their lands posted now anyways and want this to pass just so they don;t have to bother putting up signs............the people that allow hunting now by not posting or asking permission will likely still allow hunting if one asks, so how EXACTLY is it "anti hunting".............</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">Then ask what is to be gained from painting it as such? </span></strong></p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I know this will disappoint you plains, but I really don't give a shit what you think.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>To the fella whose ranch is 5000 acres, 3.5 million acres (someone posted earlier) is quite a few acres. Of course not as much as other western states but that might not be the best angle to take.</p><p></p><p> If someone asks you is 3.5 million not enough.............how much more do you need ........what are you going to answer that will help the discussion? 3.5 million acres is a big number when you are used to driving over 5000.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gst, post: 147497, member: 373"] So outside of BBQ kinda answering it, why have the others that have jumped down with both boots not addressed this simple question that some want desperately to portray this bill as? The question was asked to get people to stop and think about the rhetoric some are using, I have heard more than a few farmers at ball games and around since this is getting air time not too impressed with this kind of rhetoric. Once they have heard that kinda promotion of opposition to this bill many are asking the question what gives people the right to expect to come onto private property unless it is posted. Most simply wish to avoid having to put up signs without realizing that if they do not wish to be bothered all fall they will have to still put up signs.[B] Most of these farmers and ranchers have many friends from town that hunt their lands, they are not anti hunting and tire of hearing it.[/B] The point of my comments quoting Mr. Mazahari is that while this bill will likely fail, it is gaining more support. Legislators are listening more and giving it more time than ever before becasue they are hearing more support than ever before. So when this bill comes back (want to bet whether it does) down the road a few years do you want it starting from a position of increased support then because of people spouting things now? It likely will pass at that point. I will live with what ever passes. I will have to continue to post the good areas of habitat we have worked hard ot create for my family and friends to hunt in or be inundated with calls and people stopping in all fall so that and the fact the penalties will still not deter the jackasses not much would change for me outside of what my kids would have to go thru to do what I grew up doing. so before people want to jump all over someone, take the time to answer this simple question. [B][SIZE=4]Odds are the people pushing this bill likely have their lands posted now anyways and want this to pass just so they don;t have to bother putting up signs............the people that allow hunting now by not posting or asking permission will likely still allow hunting if one asks, so how EXACTLY is it "anti hunting"............. Then ask what is to be gained from painting it as such? [/SIZE][/B] [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] I know this will disappoint you plains, but I really don't give a shit what you think. [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] To the fella whose ranch is 5000 acres, 3.5 million acres (someone posted earlier) is quite a few acres. Of course not as much as other western states but that might not be the best angle to take. If someone asks you is 3.5 million not enough.............how much more do you need ........what are you going to answer that will help the discussion? 3.5 million acres is a big number when you are used to driving over 5000. [/QUOTE]
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