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<blockquote data-quote="shorthairsrus" data-source="post: 381704" data-attributes="member: 219">Lets say your numbers are correct -- (which 10k are benefits plus UC and Work comp) but whatever for disucssion your numbers are correct.&nbsp;&nbsp; To even live in the USA both you and your wife need 150k; i dont even know anymore that it buys you a home; more like a twin home or townhome, modest vehicles and maybe a leaky old lund boat.&nbsp; Add daycare ---- ouch i am glad i am on the way out instead of the way into this world. Its a free country ---- when i was employed i negotiated my wage.&nbsp;&nbsp; My son and daughter both negotiated their wages -- neither is union nor was i but they had a negotiaton.&nbsp; &nbsp; I have never been union but i never have seen the reason why non-union workers bitch about union ones.&nbsp; &nbsp; Your price of your vehicle went up.&nbsp; &nbsp; I guarantee you the price of boats went up xx more than vehicles (they dont even compare when you look at what goes into a vehicle vs a boat) and ask them the boat workers what they get paid (a lot less).&nbsp; PTO -- how many companies have unlimited.&nbsp; &nbsp; Nobody works in this state on a friday.&nbsp;&nbsp; I think as a whole management doesnt even know what real production is anymore.&nbsp;&nbsp; They cannot guage it; especially public companies.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="shorthairsrus, post: 381704, member: 219"] Lets say your numbers are correct -- (which 10k are benefits plus UC and Work comp) but whatever for disucssion your numbers are correct. To even live in the USA both you and your wife need 150k; i dont even know anymore that it buys you a home; more like a twin home or townhome, modest vehicles and maybe a leaky old lund boat. Add daycare ---- ouch i am glad i am on the way out instead of the way into this world. Its a free country ---- when i was employed i negotiated my wage. My son and daughter both negotiated their wages -- neither is union nor was i but they had a negotiaton. I have never been union but i never have seen the reason why non-union workers bitch about union ones. Your price of your vehicle went up. I guarantee you the price of boats went up xx more than vehicles (they dont even compare when you look at what goes into a vehicle vs a boat) and ask them the boat workers what they get paid (a lot less). PTO -- how many companies have unlimited. Nobody works in this state on a friday. I think as a whole management doesnt even know what real production is anymore. They cannot guage it; especially public companies. [/QUOTE]

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