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Message: <blockquote data-quote="johnr" data-source="post: 382234" data-attributes="member: 395"><p>I haven't owed on a vehicle in probably over a decade. I could give 2 shits about cheap cars or leases or what have you. I have children and grand children that at some point are going to be the ones taking this shit, that's what I care about. Owning a new car does nothing for me, I am satisfied driving my work pickup everywhere I go, mrs johnr is in darn near a 10 year old vehicle. </p><p></p><p>Try being 18 and buying into the world we are running right now. If we pay monkeys 40% raises, then the CEO will be getting that much more, the entire goal of earning more will be gone, as prices and every other job will take the chunk these folks think they are getting and its just a bigger tax burden, and once again it just feeds our obese government. We all fucking lose.</p></blockquote><p></p>

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