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<blockquote data-quote="SDMF" data-source="post: 57129" data-attributes="member: 412">The good:All of the new 3/4T diesels are a dream to drive, especially while towing.&nbsp; They give a sense of security/safety partly because of the big power/torque they all make, partly because they're a heavier overall vehicle vs. 1/2T and with a bigger load and/or stiff winds it's less likely for the driver to get that &quot;tail wagging the dog&quot; feeling.&nbsp; With the power/torque all of the new diesels make they never really seem like they're working.&nbsp; They'll pull a big load up a steep hill and most often stay in top gear (automatic) while just letting the turbo spool up and handle the load.&nbsp; The new auto transmissions they're all using have a manual mode that are (IMO) every bit as effective as a full manual tranny.&nbsp; In the case of my '11 F-250 in manual mode it shifts every bit as fast as I can run a manual.&nbsp; I can't imagine anyone being unhappy towing with any of them.The challenge:DPF/DEF systems.&nbsp; They're existence pretty much mandates that you bring them up to full temp every time you drive them.&nbsp; My '11 takes ~20min @ highway speed for the motor to come up to temp.&nbsp; Basically, when it's below freezing it takes from Fargo to Casselton before I'm fully up to temp, even with a 5-10min warmup idle.&nbsp; Stop and go driving around town when it's cold out I never get up to full temp even if I let it idle a bunch.&nbsp; When you're not getting up to full temp the problems start at the back and work their way forward.&nbsp; Sensors in the exhaust, then clogging of the EGR, then plugging of injectors.&nbsp; The $$ for the fixes go up quickly as they work from back to front.&nbsp; If a person lived a little way out or work allowed for a 20-30min continuous (not stop and go in town) driving then they'd be unlikely to have a problem.&nbsp; If a person lives in-town and drives across town for work and shuts the truck down every day, over time, they'll likely have exhaust related troubles.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="SDMF, post: 57129, member: 412"] The good: All of the new 3/4T diesels are a dream to drive, especially while towing. They give a sense of security/safety partly because of the big power/torque they all make, partly because they're a heavier overall vehicle vs. 1/2T and with a bigger load and/or stiff winds it's less likely for the driver to get that "tail wagging the dog" feeling. With the power/torque all of the new diesels make they never really seem like they're working. They'll pull a big load up a steep hill and most often stay in top gear (automatic) while just letting the turbo spool up and handle the load. The new auto transmissions they're all using have a manual mode that are (IMO) every bit as effective as a full manual tranny. In the case of my '11 F-250 in manual mode it shifts every bit as fast as I can run a manual. I can't imagine anyone being unhappy towing with any of them. The challenge: DPF/DEF systems. They're existence pretty much mandates that you bring them up to full temp every time you drive them. My '11 takes ~20min @ highway speed for the motor to come up to temp. Basically, when it's below freezing it takes from Fargo to Casselton before I'm fully up to temp, even with a 5-10min warmup idle. Stop and go driving around town when it's cold out I never get up to full temp even if I let it idle a bunch. When you're not getting up to full temp the problems start at the back and work their way forward. Sensors in the exhaust, then clogging of the EGR, then plugging of injectors. The $$ for the fixes go up quickly as they work from back to front. If a person lived a little way out or work allowed for a 20-30min continuous (not stop and go in town) driving then they'd be unlikely to have a problem. If a person lives in-town and drives across town for work and shuts the truck down every day, over time, they'll likely have exhaust related troubles. [/QUOTE]

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