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<blockquote data-quote="raider" data-source="post: 294094" data-attributes="member: 353"><p>the model choice is a ford, chevy, dodge argument... pick whatever you like the best or what you get the best deal on... DO NOT buy an auction machine - have personally seen too many people screwed... paint and decals are cheap...</p><p></p><p>find it4 or earlier for less headaches and maintenance costs... you do not want a scr, dpf, or def system - until a couple years ago the cut off was 75 horse and above normally had the govt friendly equipment... </p><p></p><p>wheels vs tracks - the same class track machine will cost you 12k more new over a wheeled machine...</p><p>when you need tires, you would generally need tracks... a new set of tires will run you about 1600... a new set of tracks will run you about 3k, but you will probably need at least sprockets if not idlers by then - figure another 3k average... drive motors run about 5k per side on a track machine if you have issues with them and they can be suspect at 2500 hours depending on the operator... fwiw, ive never seen a wheel machine with a chaincase failure...</p><p></p><p>i used to sell bobcats and would tell customers that to own the same class machine with tracks will cost you bout 15k more the first 1500 hours... with used, bout the same numbers... </p><p></p><p>you have a pretty good chance of finding a cupcake wheel machine used - a babied track machine, not so much... the people who pay the extra up front and operating cost generally need the pushing power of a tracked machine, and most of them over 75 horse get worked HARD... </p><p></p><p>1 more thing - southern mn and wisconsin (dairy country) have some awesome looking deals on used machines... ive seen some of the machines that came out of the dairys that had quick tach plates held together by the paint... steel hates urea...</p><p></p><p>good luck...</p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p>on high flow - no, unless you're gonna run a specialized attachment like a stump grinder or flail cutter... high flow does nothing for machine operation, it's just a second pump for running attachments...</p><p></p><p>you can get almost any attachment in standard flow... for example, bobcat used to say that a standard flow machine with a standard flow snow blower will throw snow 40' - a high flow machine with a high flow snow blower will throw it 45'...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="raider, post: 294094, member: 353"] the model choice is a ford, chevy, dodge argument... pick whatever you like the best or what you get the best deal on... DO NOT buy an auction machine - have personally seen too many people screwed... paint and decals are cheap... find it4 or earlier for less headaches and maintenance costs... you do not want a scr, dpf, or def system - until a couple years ago the cut off was 75 horse and above normally had the govt friendly equipment... wheels vs tracks - the same class track machine will cost you 12k more new over a wheeled machine... when you need tires, you would generally need tracks... a new set of tires will run you about 1600... a new set of tracks will run you about 3k, but you will probably need at least sprockets if not idlers by then - figure another 3k average... drive motors run about 5k per side on a track machine if you have issues with them and they can be suspect at 2500 hours depending on the operator... fwiw, ive never seen a wheel machine with a chaincase failure... i used to sell bobcats and would tell customers that to own the same class machine with tracks will cost you bout 15k more the first 1500 hours... with used, bout the same numbers... you have a pretty good chance of finding a cupcake wheel machine used - a babied track machine, not so much... the people who pay the extra up front and operating cost generally need the pushing power of a tracked machine, and most of them over 75 horse get worked HARD... 1 more thing - southern mn and wisconsin (dairy country) have some awesome looking deals on used machines... ive seen some of the machines that came out of the dairys that had quick tach plates held together by the paint... steel hates urea... good luck... [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] on high flow - no, unless you're gonna run a specialized attachment like a stump grinder or flail cutter... high flow does nothing for machine operation, it's just a second pump for running attachments... you can get almost any attachment in standard flow... for example, bobcat used to say that a standard flow machine with a standard flow snow blower will throw snow 40' - a high flow machine with a high flow snow blower will throw it 45'... [/QUOTE]
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