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<blockquote data-quote="eyexer" data-source="post: 239950" data-attributes="member: 315"><p>In Williston it's not a question of &quot;need&quot; for space.&nbsp; The question is why the hell do you need to spend 127 million.&nbsp; They want to spend 70 million alone just for one elementary.&nbsp; The Mountrail/Williams electric coop just got done building an 85,000 square foot facility for 38 million.&nbsp; And it's totally state of the art.&nbsp; Just the HVAC system alone is unbelievable.&nbsp; Geothermal system with something like 300 150' holes drilled for their coils.&nbsp; Could you imagine what that cost alone?&nbsp; yet they built this multi building campus for 38 million.&nbsp; Yet the school is trying to tell us it takes 70 million for an elementary lol.&nbsp; I have a cousin who owns her own architecture firm in Kansas City.&nbsp; I talked to her about this.&nbsp; Williston thinks it needs to spend $430 a square foot for schools.&nbsp; In KC they build them all the time for $220-$275 a square foot.&nbsp; And that's with union labor.&nbsp; Williston is going about this totally wrong.&nbsp; They are letting a company that gets paid a percentage of total cost dictate to them what they need.&nbsp; That's letting the fox in the hen house if I've ever seen it.&nbsp; And they don't even know what exactly they're going to get for it.&nbsp; All they have is square footage and an exterior sketch.&nbsp; How the hell can you sell that to tax payers.&nbsp; And they want to close some existing elementary's because they were built in the 50's.&nbsp; Holy shit go to the eastern part of the country and look at two hundred year old buildings that are in perfectly good shape.&nbsp;&nbsp; The board tries to tell us the older elementary's are structurally unsound.&nbsp; Yet they can't tell you what it is and they won't present an engineers findings on the matter.&nbsp; And that is because it's untrue.&nbsp; And they just want new.&nbsp; The path their taking is preventing the situation from being remedied.&nbsp; Everybody knows what the real story is.&nbsp; Another point is they had to have a two million dollar football/track facility complete with artificial turf etc.&nbsp; They had a perfectly good field/track that they could have used for quite a number of years.&nbsp; But they had to have it with the new high school even though they knew they were under building.&nbsp; Because they knew it would be far easier to sell a new addition to the tax payers rather than an athletic facility.&nbsp; This is being done in such a piss poor way it's amazing.&nbsp; Now add to that District 8 exists which is everything outside of city limits.&nbsp; They have 1/4 the students and collect about four times the property tax money than the city does.&nbsp; how the hell these districts aren't put into one district is assinine.&nbsp; District 8 tried three times to get a property tax measure passed to built a new elementary and it got smoked every time because they honestly didn't need one.&nbsp; So what did they do?&nbsp; Right after the third defeat they whipped out 16 million from a school maintenance slush fund to build a new school.&nbsp; how in the hell does a school hoard away 16 million dollars.&nbsp; Especially one the size of district 8.&nbsp; This shit is beyond mind boggling.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="eyexer, post: 239950, member: 315"] In Williston it's not a question of "need" for space. The question is why the hell do you need to spend 127 million. They want to spend 70 million alone just for one elementary. The Mountrail/Williams electric coop just got done building an 85,000 square foot facility for 38 million. And it's totally state of the art. Just the HVAC system alone is unbelievable. Geothermal system with something like 300 150' holes drilled for their coils. Could you imagine what that cost alone? yet they built this multi building campus for 38 million. Yet the school is trying to tell us it takes 70 million for an elementary lol. I have a cousin who owns her own architecture firm in Kansas City. I talked to her about this. Williston thinks it needs to spend $430 a square foot for schools. In KC they build them all the time for $220-$275 a square foot. And that's with union labor. Williston is going about this totally wrong. They are letting a company that gets paid a percentage of total cost dictate to them what they need. That's letting the fox in the hen house if I've ever seen it. And they don't even know what exactly they're going to get for it. All they have is square footage and an exterior sketch. How the hell can you sell that to tax payers. And they want to close some existing elementary's because they were built in the 50's. Holy shit go to the eastern part of the country and look at two hundred year old buildings that are in perfectly good shape. The board tries to tell us the older elementary's are structurally unsound. Yet they can't tell you what it is and they won't present an engineers findings on the matter. And that is because it's untrue. And they just want new. The path their taking is preventing the situation from being remedied. Everybody knows what the real story is. Another point is they had to have a two million dollar football/track facility complete with artificial turf etc. They had a perfectly good field/track that they could have used for quite a number of years. But they had to have it with the new high school even though they knew they were under building. Because they knew it would be far easier to sell a new addition to the tax payers rather than an athletic facility. This is being done in such a piss poor way it's amazing. Now add to that District 8 exists which is everything outside of city limits. They have 1/4 the students and collect about four times the property tax money than the city does. how the hell these districts aren't put into one district is assinine. District 8 tried three times to get a property tax measure passed to built a new elementary and it got smoked every time because they honestly didn't need one. So what did they do? Right after the third defeat they whipped out 16 million from a school maintenance slush fund to build a new school. how in the hell does a school hoard away 16 million dollars. Especially one the size of district 8. This shit is beyond mind boggling. [/QUOTE]

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