HB 5087 will your gun make the cut

[Sum1]

Gun bans have zero to do with stoping crimes and %100 to do with taking a citizens only means of protection from the government away.

 

[AR-15]

When will this bill be voted on

 

[Obi-Wan]

The bill has been sent to committee but not date has been set for the vote

When will this bill be voted on

 

[Livetohuntandfish]

So I personally think video games and tv are to blame for society’s mass shootings. I thought it was interesting that this is a quote one of the major video game businesses put out after being asked by trump to sit in on a gun debate.

Video games are enjoyed around the world and numerous authorities and reputable scientific studies have found no connection between games and real-life violence,” said the ESA. “Like all Americans, we are deeply concerned about the level of gun violence in the United States. Video games are plainly not the issue: entertainment is distributed and consumed globally, but the US has an exponentially higher level of gun violence than any other nation.


I think this is bull****. Im stumped though. We have no rational thinking in this world anymore.

 

[DirtyMike]

Violent video games, as well as guns, are dangerous in the wrong hands. We used to have some call of duty marathons in college yet I know the difference between real life and a video game. I respect the lives of other human beings. So blaming video games while chastising people for blaming guns is BS. MENTAL HEALTH will always be the common denominator. Can these kids discern between fantasy and real life implications? Will he have the tools to mitigate perceived threats and/or adversity? Spend time with your kids. Ask them the tough questions. Be persistent to have them open up to you. Those responsibilities seem to be passed on to educators and school staff these days.

 

[Davey Crockett]

Violent video games, as well as guns, are dangerous in the wrong hands. We used to have some call of duty marathons in college yet I know the difference between real life and a video game. I respect the lives of other human beings. So blaming video games while chastising people for blaming guns is BS. MENTAL HEALTH will always be the common denominator. Can these kids discern between fantasy and real life implications? Will he have the tools to mitigate perceived threats and/or adversity? Spend time with your kids. Ask them the tough questions. Be persistent to have them open up to you. Those responsibilities seem to be passed on to educators and school staff these days.

Pretty sure your mind was pretty much developed when you were in college. If a child did everything that college age people do would that child would turn out "normal" ?

 

[guywhofishes]

violent games, violent or kid porn (PUKE), etc. - 99% of people can immerse themselves in the stuff and still "maintain" social boundaries

but the folks with no self-imposed discipline - the sociopaths?.... you just gave them all kinds of crap to ruminate on until they can't hold it in any longer - you just opened Pandora's Box

guns are no different - 99% use them responsibly

I don't see any liberals (teachers, nags, justice warriors) screaming to stop the sale of porn and video games

and why the hell not exactly? - if they are honestly "doing it for the kids"

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regarding video games - I think those violent games based on defending yourself or others against a common enemy (war/law enforcement/planet earth defense, etc) are healthy

I think those that have you killing peers, good guys, or "capping someone's ass to steal their car" etc. are sick and twist the soul

 

[DirtyMike]

Pretty sure your mind was pretty much developed when you were in college. If a child did everything that college age people do would that child would turn out "normal" ?

Alright Dave, I’ll rewind even further when we would play 007 goldeneye til our fingers were raw. That was when I was in about 5-6th grade. So my mind wasn’t made up by that point. Come back with a better argument.

 

[guywhofishes]

Alright Dave, I’ll rewind even further when we would play 007 goldeneye til our fingers were raw. That was when I was in about 5-6th grade. So my mind wasn’t made up by that point. Come back with a better argument.

but you cheated - ha ha - you started with the healthy soul and guiding force (family/society)

what about those for whom YOUR feelings/safety/well-being mean nothing? in fact - they are toys to be played with (sociopaths)

in the old days these nut jobs were identified early and sent to "reform school" etc.... locked away

In some cases it was cruel because some kids had crappy parents or had been abused - sad indeed - BUT it kept them from destroying more lives and creating more monsters (young victims who grow up to do the same as what happened to them)

nowadays we let them go over and over and over and over - but we put out warnings so people know they are in the neighborhood - WTF????

every garden has weeds - but we've become too soft to weed the garden. Guess what - the garden's dying because we can't bring ourselves to weed any more - that's just the way it is.

 

[Stan's Dad]

007 goldeneye was a game changer. Incredible game in its time

 

[Davey Crockett]

Alright Dave, I’ll rewind even further when we would play 007 goldeneye til our fingers were raw. That was when I was in about 5-6th grade. So my mind wasn’t made up by that point. Come back with a better argument.

I have no idea what the names of the games represent or how graphic they are . As far as my argument goes, I never played them and my boys played mario brothers so I'll stick with expert advice. I agree some video games are good for the mind and promote hand eye coordination and are healthy when used in moderation.

 

[DirtyMike]

We played those too. There wasn’t more than a couple weeks break between sports, I worked by mowing lawns or lifeguarding since I was old enough to do either. Everything goes back to the kid that commits the crime. Blame what you want but until the kids mental health is righted, you’ll see more and more crimes committed. Banning a gun is about as ridiculous as banning cars and cell phones. Guy is spot on in previous posts. Weed the garden. Not everyone is given a fair shot either from upbringing, genetic makeup or outside influences. Unfortunate as it may be, it’s life.

 

[Livetohuntandfish]

I completely agree with mental health and good family values. But when you put some of those games in front of even a healthy mental stable 8-10yr old who’s brain is just developing its DANGEROUS. And I’m talking games where the goal is to just mass murder people. Like grand theft auto. How many 8-10 year olds do you see playing with “assault rifles”. I’m sure there are a few but in most cases if they are it’s target practice or hunting situations. Not shooting at targets resembling people. That’s why we have a 18yr old age restrict on buying weapons. I understand video games do to in some means but the people playing these are little kids in most cases. I guess I feel that media, games and tv and even the media are to blame and not firearms. It’s a learned behavior. Firearms are a tool.

 

[Ericb]

I wouldn't neccisarly blame the content of the video games, but the volume some kids play them. I can tell a difference in my own sons behavior if he spends to much time behind a screen. Now look at how many kids won't spend quality time with there parents fishing hunting because they would rather be playing games. Or just the decrease in actual physical interaction with other people. Oh or kids that wake up in the middle of the night and play games instead of sleeping before school.

 

[Davey Crockett]

Disclaimer : I'm not trying to tell anyone how to raise their kids, I'm just telling you what I saw.

Pretty much what we saw too Eric. Our kids had been wanting a nintendo so we bought them one for Christmas. They had been responsible and good at sharing toys but we noticed an instant addiction that didn't wear off like other toys we had bought them. It got to the point where they were fighting over it so we had to schedule when each one could use it and before we knew it the FN thing had our family negotiating bedtime , Chores and I vividly remember one of the boys crying before hockey practice because mean old dad was going to "make" him go to practice rather than let him stay home and play mario. Long story short, It turned out to be more of a disruption in our lifestyle than anything else.

 

[Wild and Free]

 

[huntorride365]

Agreed. And just because the study doesn't show statistical significance doesn't mean there's no correlation. Just one shit bag being influenced by violent video games and shooting up a school has a lot of significance for those involved.