US fish and Wildlife Service

[lunkerslayer]

They will all be fine,.life goes on just like the private sector,.they will adapt and be better off.

 

[Trip McNeely]

Well I won’t change my tune. It’s time the federal government gets slashed. It’s out of control. Sorry not sorry people are losing Jobs. Happens every day in the private sector. Won’t feel sorry for anyone nor myself if my number ever gets cut. It’s life. It needed to happen and it is. No amount of crying will change it.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/e...agency-cancels-hundreds-of-grants/vi-AA1ARnv1

In this video clip they mention the Natural Resources Defense Council. In 1984 NRDC won a landmark decision against Chevron. It became known as Chevron Deference. If Congress left gaps in defining legislation, government agencies could dot the I's and cross the T's in rules and regulations. Provided agencies had an uninterested stake in the outcome.

The number of non-profits NGO's exploded. Federal employees or retired serve on the boards of NGO's and then lobby Congress for more and more money. An interested Stake. They have become a voting block unto themselves. The tail wagging the dog.

June 2024, Trump's picks for the Supreme Court overturned Chevron Deference. They knew full well what was going to happen if Trump got elected and fought him hard.

On the other hand, Bidens handlers handed out money to NGO's like drunken sailors so Trump could inherit this inflation.

 

[PrairieGhost]

Bullshit…if you had any idea how many stood up and didn’t take the jab you’d change your tune

I wonder how many were forced to take the jab and how many were fired because they didn't.

The problem with some federal jobs is the liberal administration didn't hire based on merit. They appointed liberals who hired liberals who hired more liberals. It was a great thing to worl for in 1971, but went to crap by 1980. In 1971 they had the best retirement system out there and by 1980 they were no longer in the top 500.

By 1990 many would like to get out, but with 20 to 30 years invested it woukd be hard to go private with little to no retirement and trying to compete with younger people in better health for manual work. After 1990 many felt more like prisoners than employees.

Feds are not to talk politics, but if you don't cheer for the crazies in DC the liberals pick you out and make life miserable.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

Finally PrairieGhost, you open up a little. My brother went to college Missoula MT around 1981 for Park Ranger. A white farm kid interested in trapping hunting the outdoors. The professor told him he may have a hard time getting placed. The job openings were going to young people they could train their way, not young people set in their ways about the outdoors.

Gubment for years has posted "we are an equal opportunity employer and do not discriminate.................

We have seen that everywhere. It is a reverse discrimination not based in merit. DEI.

 

[Average_NDA_Member]

round here we dont change our minds ‘less the man in charge tells us to y’hear now maybe if trump n elon said gov workers are ok again we’d agree but we do what we’re told n thats that

fact of the matter is all you feds who took the jab are accountable for covid which still takes up bout 90 per cent of my brain it don’t matter to me that most feds are atchally blue coller and military types nope so i think its only right you lose yer job while we ignore the big wastefull contractors if we lose land and animals good at least the libs lost too lmao same with farmers stop complainin just be patriots I never served id prolly punch a drill instruction if he ever got in my face plus wars are big money makers and politicians dont want em over with right away and id personally win it day 1 guaran damn teed

 

[Trip McNeely]

round here we dont change our minds ‘less the man in charge tells us to y’hear now maybe if trump n elon said gov workers are ok again we’d agree but we do what we’re told n thats that

fact of the matter is all you feds who took the jab are accountable for covid which still takes up bout 90 per cent of my brain it don’t matter to me that most feds are atchally blue coller and military types nope so i think its only right you lose yer job while we ignore the big wastefull contractors if we lose land and animals good at least the libs lost too lmao same with farmers stop complainin just be patriots I never served id prolly punch a drill instruction if he ever got in my face plus wars are big money makers and politicians dont want em over with right away and id personally win it day 1 guaran damn teed

Some find you amusing….. I find you fucking annoying…..

 

[Eatsleeptrap]

Some find you amusing….. I find you fucking annoying…..

Aw, come on. Don't you think it is a little cool that he's the only guy out of a little over 8 billion people on the planet that masturbates to Eric Cartman?

 

[PrairieGhost]

if we lose land and animals good at least the libs lost too lmao

Sounds like you would eat strychnine if someone else wanted it.

 

[Average_NDA_Member]

Sounds like you would eat strychnine if someone else wanted it.

hmmm maybe depends who

 

[johnr]

Some find you amusing….. I find you fucking annoying…..

LOL
I must say I agree.

 

[Obi-Wan]

Sounds like you would eat strychnine if someone else wanted it.

I heard Trump said he was against anyone eating strychnine.

 

[PrairieGhost]

I heard Trump said he was against anyone eating strychnine.

If he did I would find some way to buy stock in strÿchnine and caskets. There would be high demand. Is this a plan to make America great again? On sale half price for pedophiles -----and groomers.

 

[PrairieGhost]

My condolences to Camper's widow.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

Trump’s Order to Pause Federal Grants Causes Chaos in the Conservation World​

The reversal of an executive order is welcome news to conservationists. State agencies and critter organizations were worried that Pittman-Robertson dollars will be cut off, along with other essential programs that fund wildlife management, habitat work, and public access
By Andrew McKean, Natalie Krebs
Updated on Jan 29, 2025

The Trump administration has rescinded its freeze on federal grants and loans that caused massive confusion across all sectors of the country Tuesday, including within state game and fish agencies and conservation organizations like Pheasants Forever, the National Deer Association, and others. Multiple news outlets reported the reversal on Wednesday, reportedly confirmed by White House officials.



State wildlife grants administered by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service are likely to be among federal funds affected by the pause. In mid-January the USFWS reported that nearly $1 billion in wildlife restoration funds and another $416 million in sport-fish restoration funds generated in fiscal year 2025 were being apportioned to state fish-and-game agencies to fund fish and wildlife management, habitat and access projects, and education and outreach initiatives. Those funds that haven’t yet been paid out are now apparently frozen, part of a government-wide “pause” in federal “grants, loans, or federal financial aid.”

Late this afternoon, a federal judge temporarily blocked the order from going into effect, though some federal funding was already unavailable Tuesday.
That USFWS funds might be paused caught many sources off guard. They had expected the funds — excise-tax revenue from the sale of guns, ammunition, archery gear, and fishing tackle known as Pittman-Robertson and Dingell-Johnson dollars — to be unaffected because they’re not U.S. Treasury revenues but rather specially earmarked pass-through funds.

Meanwhile, other conservation funding is likely to be paused. That includes unappropriated funds from the Bipartisan Infrastructure Act and Inflation Reduction Act, passed by Congress during the Biden Administration. Large grants from those funds have been used by conservation non-profits, including the National Wild Turkey Federation and Mule Deer Foundation, for stewardship work historically performed by federal agencies.

NDA, the discussion is about contracts awarded to non-profits. National Wildlife Turkey Federation and some others were to receive $100 million dollars to clear trees and underbrush for fire control. Poor idea or good idea?


“It’s our understanding that’s all being paused, at least the unobligated dollars,” said a source close to the administration who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they didn’t have authority to speak on the record. “Funds that have been spent, or have been transferred to NGOs [non-governmental organizations] and earmarked for specific projects, are not affected by the pause.”

​

It’s less clear if funds distributed through the Land and Water Conservation Fund, collected through a federal tax on off-shore oil and gas sales and distributed to states and local governments for outdoor recreation, open-space acquisition, and access projects, will be affected.

NDA, the discussion about the Land Water Conservation Fund was passed 1964 at $90 million. It was only fully funded twice. Orgs and government had to make requests every year. They wanted ninety million permanent for themselves to spend. I don't know why the first Trump administration gave it to them with an asterisk they couldn't use it to purchase land. When Biden got in, they line itemed the part cannot purchase land right out of there.


“Everything is so uncertain right now. This is an unprecedented situation and we are waiting for guidance just like everyone else,” says Ariel Alberti Wiegard, vice president of government affairs for Pheasants Forever and Quail Forever. “We haven’t yet gotten clarity from our agency partners and we also haven’t gotten clarity from Congress. We’re just in wait-and-see mode, like so many others in the conservation and hunting community who utilize these programs.”

State walk-in-access programs around the country are funded through programs like the Farm Bill and hunter license dollars, which are tied to Pittman-Robertson funds. Photo by Natalie Krebs
When Congress passed the Inflation Reduction Act in 2022, it included an additional $19.5 billion for Farm Bill conservation programs. As of Spring 2024, about $14 billion of that nearly $20 billion had not yet been spent. Monday’s executive order likely freezes those funds, since the IRA is widely considered by Republicans part of the Green New Deal referenced in the memo.

NDA, Biden's Inflation Reduction Act made farm agencies like the Natural Resources Conservation Service flush with cash. Come get some free grass seed. If there was $14 Billion unspent, take it back and don't spend it. That kind of spending causes inflation.




“There are a couple possibilities for those IRA dollars. One, they could get cut or rolled back through the OMB effort,” says Wiegard, referring to the memo. Other possibilities include returning the funds to the Treasury, reallocating them, or leaving them to support another five-year Farm Bill.

Much of the habitat work being outsourced to conservation groups represents an important way to deliver vital stewardship while responsibly using public funds, says Katie McKalip, vice president of communications and marketing for the Ruffed Grouse and American Woodcock societies, which delivers some of that federally directed conservation work.

“Our work is the very definition of government efficiency, and outputs and outcomes from this work — and from our national forests — support communities all across the country,” says McKalip. “We’re committed to seeing this crucial habitat work advance, and we look forward to working with the administration to continue to create and build healthy forest landscapes.”

In addition to supporting key conservation projects, federal grant money also helps fund some staff salaries at organizations like the National Deer Association.

NDA, The National Deer Association is a non-governmental org NGO. If they are receiving federal money to make payroll, then wouldn't they be a GO or Governmental org?

“People are wondering if they have jobs, if they don’t have jobs,” says NDA president and CEO Nick Pinizzotto. “Initially we had concerns [since] our state agencies get a certain amount of funding from Pittman-Robertson and [staff] positions that we would have are also tied to that money. So that would be a huge impact not only to us, but many of our partners.”

NDA, this article is a little dated but gives insight into Trump and DOGE. USAID was low hanging fruit because the non-profit was offshore and blatant. As DOGE turns inward or looks inside the U.S. the non-profits are going to get more vocal to guard their share of the spoils.

 

[Kurtr]

That crep land is worth every penny its actually some of the best stuff as far as habitat goes

 

[camper]

My condolences to Camper's widow.

Haha. I’m still here here enjoying the trump clown shit show. It’s good to see you haven’t gotten any smarter, I feel bad for your wife. She’d probably enjoy being a widow. Hahaha
Thanks for waking me up, I’m sure your comrades will feel the same way.

 

[rodcontrol]

So you’d prefer it was transferred to the state? Ok. You obviously don’t hunt federal land in ND or western states. State land almost always has more restrictions. Just look at ND where the renter can post state land. And of course there’s the long history of states selling off state land. Keep the land federal, it already belongs to all the people on the u.s. it would be a nightmare for western hunters if land was transferred to the states

Did you find anything to hunt on federal land last year? most of the ranchers have it grazed down to fairway length. Cows everywhere not a single deer is what I saw on 90% of it south of Medora

 

[rodcontrol]

The USFWS service's financial model is broken. When I worked with them it was a use it or lose it type budget. Refuges spent their allotted amounts every year whether it was necessary or not. Even as a college kid I could see the absolutely insane amount of wasteful spending. Refuges were able to trade funds to get larger amounts of money to actually build or create worthwhile projects. This I thought was good but they all had huge budgets. At the time the refuge manager also would create many hours of overtime for himself doing pointless tasks. So yes there is a lot of LARD to be trimmed. This was nearly 20 years ago so I am assuming it has gotten worse.

 

[bravo]

You should see what the military does with the money they hoarded at the end of the fiscal year.

It’s not the FWS’s model that’s broken, it’s the entire government’s model of “reward spending, punish saving”. If the agencies were allowed the autonomy roll money over, they could actually prioritize budget for more expensive projects. Instead they either have to beg congress, or apply for grants. On the other hand there are accountability benefits to that process.