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<blockquote data-quote="wjschmaltz" data-source="post: 343478" data-attributes="member: 6150"><p>Exactly. I'm very libertarian, a live and let live type of person. Gay hippie loggers for Jesus. People should be able to live their own lives until the externalities of their decisions effect other people - especially the helpless. People should be able to do whatever they want on their land; unless they are polluting and the downstream effects are harming others. People should be able to do whatever they want with their bodies; until they are literally murdering a defenseless human. </p><p></p><p>All through history there have been groups of people pointing to other groups of people and claiming that those people are not real people. Today, the pro-abortion side makes this argument. And it's just as wrong now as it's always been. And those who are indifferent to this murder and simply turn away knowing these facts are just as guilty in this atrocity as the sick politicians and doctors. Make sure you are on the right side of history.</p><p></p><p>The abortion conversation really is not complicated:</p><p>Is an unborn child a human being? Yes.</p><p>Does abortion intentionally kill a human being? Yes.</p><p>Is it always wrong and should it always be illegal to kill an innocent and defenseless human being? Yes.</p><p></p><p>This isn't about reproductive rights. Reproduction has already happened. Abortion kills the child that has been reproduce; it does not prevent him from being reproduced. We can all agree that birth control of all sorts should be used by both parties involved in making a baby if you're not ready for the responsibility. That is what reproductive rights are, not abortion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wjschmaltz, post: 343478, member: 6150"] Exactly. I'm very libertarian, a live and let live type of person. Gay hippie loggers for Jesus. People should be able to live their own lives until the externalities of their decisions effect other people - especially the helpless. People should be able to do whatever they want on their land; unless they are polluting and the downstream effects are harming others. People should be able to do whatever they want with their bodies; until they are literally murdering a defenseless human. All through history there have been groups of people pointing to other groups of people and claiming that those people are not real people. Today, the pro-abortion side makes this argument. And it's just as wrong now as it's always been. And those who are indifferent to this murder and simply turn away knowing these facts are just as guilty in this atrocity as the sick politicians and doctors. Make sure you are on the right side of history. The abortion conversation really is not complicated: Is an unborn child a human being? Yes. Does abortion intentionally kill a human being? Yes. Is it always wrong and should it always be illegal to kill an innocent and defenseless human being? Yes. This isn't about reproductive rights. Reproduction has already happened. Abortion kills the child that has been reproduce; it does not prevent him from being reproduced. We can all agree that birth control of all sorts should be used by both parties involved in making a baby if you're not ready for the responsibility. That is what reproductive rights are, not abortion. [/QUOTE]
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