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<blockquote data-quote="ndlongshot" data-source="post: 201704" data-attributes="member: 244"><p>I really want to jump into the convo here but its hard knowing we are headed down the same familiar path we always do. You either support conservation or your dont. If you do, it takes <u>acres</u> to do it. I agree with willing sellers and willing buyers. You are either capitalistic and against govt control or you aren't. If people are willing to pay for it and pool private funds and a owner wants to sell, who are we as neighbors to tell them no?</p><p></p><p>The problem is "conservation" means different things to different people. GST thinks the practices he implements are conservation in a working landscape. And he is right as I am sure he does responsible things as a landowner. Lots of them do. But lots of others dont....</p><p></p><p>Another person may see "conservation" as Ghost does. Conserving and appreciating a parcel of ground for what it is what before human interference. Preserving to the best of our ability the wildness it once held and the species that lived there. I think to preserve these places they need to be managed and have multiple use agreements. Its the only way to have support and not have them plowed up or altered. Once "native" is gone, its gone and ain't coming back. We can attempt to restore but its never the same. There are species that used to live in the prairie, that are now gone. And new species have taken there place in some instances. To the comments about the refuge in ND and trees and wildlife needing trees. ND never had much for trees until settlement and modern farming practices allowed deer and pheasants to take hold in the open prairie. They couldnt survive. So do we manage to preserve these game species or the natural habitats that came before them?</p><p></p><p>Different strokes for different folks. There is no reason we can't all spend money on the areas we feel passionate about. Our own land. Or with an organization that works on projects we care about.</p><p></p><p>I guess my thoughts on this preserve are, landowners know what they are getting into and choose to sell. Its on them and all of their neighbors and descendants. They live with that decision and its their right to make it. And the prairie preserve isn't IRAN. Its an american company formed under our current laws. If they shouldnt exist, then change the law. Its how we operate in this country.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ndlongshot, post: 201704, member: 244"] I really want to jump into the convo here but its hard knowing we are headed down the same familiar path we always do. You either support conservation or your dont. If you do, it takes [U]acres[/U] to do it. I agree with willing sellers and willing buyers. You are either capitalistic and against govt control or you aren't. If people are willing to pay for it and pool private funds and a owner wants to sell, who are we as neighbors to tell them no? The problem is "conservation" means different things to different people. GST thinks the practices he implements are conservation in a working landscape. And he is right as I am sure he does responsible things as a landowner. Lots of them do. But lots of others dont.... Another person may see "conservation" as Ghost does. Conserving and appreciating a parcel of ground for what it is what before human interference. Preserving to the best of our ability the wildness it once held and the species that lived there. I think to preserve these places they need to be managed and have multiple use agreements. Its the only way to have support and not have them plowed up or altered. Once "native" is gone, its gone and ain't coming back. We can attempt to restore but its never the same. There are species that used to live in the prairie, that are now gone. And new species have taken there place in some instances. To the comments about the refuge in ND and trees and wildlife needing trees. ND never had much for trees until settlement and modern farming practices allowed deer and pheasants to take hold in the open prairie. They couldnt survive. So do we manage to preserve these game species or the natural habitats that came before them? Different strokes for different folks. There is no reason we can't all spend money on the areas we feel passionate about. Our own land. Or with an organization that works on projects we care about. I guess my thoughts on this preserve are, landowners know what they are getting into and choose to sell. Its on them and all of their neighbors and descendants. They live with that decision and its their right to make it. And the prairie preserve isn't IRAN. Its an american company formed under our current laws. If they shouldnt exist, then change the law. Its how we operate in this country. [/QUOTE]
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