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<blockquote data-quote="gst" data-source="post: 201763" data-attributes="member: 373"><p>I don;t suppose the devil paints hell as fire and brimstone when he is looking for residents......you would have to ask plainsman though for sure as he is the resident Christian authority on here.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They are still seeking funding and support right? [MEDIA=youtube]XsFR8DbSRQE[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Plainsman grew up farming...........I would not bank on him supporting ag much today. </p><p></p><p>So these APR supporters that do not hunt, how many do not support hunting at all and believe in the management by nature? How many hundreds of millions of dollars are funding this coming from sources that do not hunt or support hunting? Do you honestly believe hunters can match that? Do you honestly believe this funding (some from outside this country) will not hold more sway over the board of this venture than a town hall meeting with a few hunters donating a couple hundred bucks? Who do you think is staying in their $2500 a night yurts? Hunters? Do you think those people spending that kind of money to stay in those yurts support hunting and would like to watch as some hunters shoot a couple majestic bull elk? </p><p></p><p>The make up of those in power ALREADY is "lopsided" with non hunters (go through the links to their boards and show us those that support hunting if you are so aware and wish the truth to be known) so by your own admission the risk is there to lose what you claim they support while trying to garner support locally.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This claim is simply incorrect at best and disingenuous at the worst. Bison CAN transmit Brucellosis as can elk which there have been a number of cases happening including the Greater Yellowstone area. The reason free roaming wild bison have not been identified as a transmission source is that those wild bison escaping the park were most often shot before being able to transmit the disease. Elk are not and are more populous and able to move more freely about. </p><p></p><p>When the end goal of 3.5 million acres is reached and a wild free ranging bison heard is established as is the goal, tell us how those animals will be rounded up caught and vaccinated? </p><p></p><p>The few thousands of dollars a rancher can receive for hunting elk is a paltry figure when compared with what the loss of a brucellosis free state status will cost.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/19/12/13-0167_article" target="_blank">https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/19/12/13-0167_article</a></p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>Holy plains you are once again either ignorant or lying. Those supporting NAFTA were NOT the ones trying to shut down Canadian wheat coming into the states. </p><p></p><p>If you do not want to be branded a liberal......stop trying to change history and the simple facts like one.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Indeed we do. Those are the people that tell stories and whoppers and distract from simple fact and truth. </p><p></p><p>Others share links to information so those with the desire can read for themselves and learn the facts, not a manufactured story designed to drive a narrative. </p><p></p><p>Plains, Trump would call much of what you post "fake news" and he would be as correct as he is about our media. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gst, post: 201763, member: 373"] I don;t suppose the devil paints hell as fire and brimstone when he is looking for residents......you would have to ask plainsman though for sure as he is the resident Christian authority on here. [COLOR=silver][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] They are still seeking funding and support right? [MEDIA=youtube]XsFR8DbSRQE[/MEDIA] [COLOR=silver][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] Plainsman grew up farming...........I would not bank on him supporting ag much today. So these APR supporters that do not hunt, how many do not support hunting at all and believe in the management by nature? How many hundreds of millions of dollars are funding this coming from sources that do not hunt or support hunting? Do you honestly believe hunters can match that? Do you honestly believe this funding (some from outside this country) will not hold more sway over the board of this venture than a town hall meeting with a few hunters donating a couple hundred bucks? Who do you think is staying in their $2500 a night yurts? Hunters? Do you think those people spending that kind of money to stay in those yurts support hunting and would like to watch as some hunters shoot a couple majestic bull elk? The make up of those in power ALREADY is "lopsided" with non hunters (go through the links to their boards and show us those that support hunting if you are so aware and wish the truth to be known) so by your own admission the risk is there to lose what you claim they support while trying to garner support locally. [COLOR=silver][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] This claim is simply incorrect at best and disingenuous at the worst. Bison CAN transmit Brucellosis as can elk which there have been a number of cases happening including the Greater Yellowstone area. The reason free roaming wild bison have not been identified as a transmission source is that those wild bison escaping the park were most often shot before being able to transmit the disease. Elk are not and are more populous and able to move more freely about. When the end goal of 3.5 million acres is reached and a wild free ranging bison heard is established as is the goal, tell us how those animals will be rounded up caught and vaccinated? The few thousands of dollars a rancher can receive for hunting elk is a paltry figure when compared with what the loss of a brucellosis free state status will cost. [url]https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/19/12/13-0167_article[/url] [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] Holy plains you are once again either ignorant or lying. Those supporting NAFTA were NOT the ones trying to shut down Canadian wheat coming into the states. If you do not want to be branded a liberal......stop trying to change history and the simple facts like one. [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] Indeed we do. Those are the people that tell stories and whoppers and distract from simple fact and truth. Others share links to information so those with the desire can read for themselves and learn the facts, not a manufactured story designed to drive a narrative. Plains, Trump would call much of what you post "fake news" and he would be as correct as he is about our media. ;) [/QUOTE]
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