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<blockquote data-quote="Eatsleeptrap" data-source="post: 481900" data-attributes="member: 7577">Red Flag laws are not a someone said he is bad take his guns away and they do.That is exactly how they will do it.&nbsp; It already happens with domestic violence restraining orders.&nbsp; If the woman decides to lie, guns get taken away.&nbsp; Seen it happen. This is what the law is trying to prevent Quit treating people like they are stupid.&nbsp; We all know what red flag laws are trying to prevent.&nbsp; The thing is, in the United Kingdom, where you cannot buy or possess a gun, 53% of domestic violence murders are by edged or pointed weapons like knives.&nbsp; Ten thousand years ago it was shaped wood and knapped rock.&nbsp; Lizzie Borden used an axe.&nbsp; You will never stop the evil of domestic violence murder, and red flag laws will only change statistics. You want ideas.&nbsp; Go back 126 years with the justice system.&nbsp; Quit caring about WHY Johnny killed his wife, or Betty killed Veronica, focus on the fact they killed and when a jury says death, kill them like the 12 person jury says, right away and publicly.&nbsp;&nbsp; When a jury says life, make it life.&nbsp; People need to develop the ability and stomach to deal with evil and crazy again.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Eatsleeptrap, post: 481900, member: 7577"] [B]Red Flag laws are not a someone said he is bad take his guns away and they do.[/B] That is exactly how they will do it. It already happens with domestic violence restraining orders. If the woman decides to lie, guns get taken away. Seen it happen. [B]This is what the law is trying to prevent [/B] Quit treating people like they are stupid. We all know what red flag laws are trying to prevent. The thing is, in the United Kingdom, where you cannot buy or possess a gun, 53% of domestic violence murders are by edged or pointed weapons like knives. Ten thousand years ago it was shaped wood and knapped rock. Lizzie Borden used an axe. You will never stop the evil of domestic violence murder, and red flag laws will only change statistics. You want ideas. Go back 126 years with the justice system. Quit caring about WHY Johnny killed his wife, or Betty killed Veronica, focus on the fact they killed and when a jury says death, kill them like the 12 person jury says, right away and publicly. When a jury says life, make it life. People need to develop the ability and stomach to deal with evil and crazy again. [/QUOTE]

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