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<blockquote data-quote="dirtytough" data-source="post: 238832" data-attributes="member: 4832"><p>Not really. I base quality off of mature animals. And if animals are allowed to grow up you will have bucks with good genetics that can achieve high scoring antlers. </p><p></p><p>As for the public/private deal. I hunt a few different areas that are on the edge of private. The top 5-7 bucks I saw during the hunt were on public. I've never seen a hunter on the different parcels of private either. My wifes buck was about half mile from private opening morning and around 100 yards away when the season opened. My buck was miles from private. </p><p></p><p>A few things I think are possible reasons for the lack of quality the last few years. </p><p>Guys filling archery tags with a rifle. </p><p>To many tags. </p><p>After the drastic tag cuts in '10 '11 it started taking longer for guys to draw. So they are putting more time an effort into the hunt since tags aren't coming as often. </p><p>Technology is making longer shots easy. My wife made a 1 shot kill @413 yards on her deer. And 413 yards isn't even a long shot now days. </p><p>A 16.5 day season during the heart of the rut. There is only so much cover and when the bucks are rutting they are in the open a lot more.</p><p>And hunters just hunting harder in general. I saw guys that are completely out of shape a couple miles from the truck. My buddy at 6' 270lbs got his buck about 3 miles from the truck.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What about Saskatchewan? They have absolute giants. Its limited. Our country is a lot the same as Sask. As for the grasslands not having many 180 bucks I agree. But 2016 and prior I saw absolute studs that I thought rivaled Colorado. Not the top end bucks in Colorado. But the 170"-190" bucks. And a lot of mature bucks that don't score but are still heavy old bucks. In fact I chose to archery hunt ND instead of getting tags for out of state hunts. Every state has big bucks if they get age on them. Maybe we don't have the 180" 3.5 year olds that Wyoming does. But I guarantee we would have 180" 5.5 year olds with mass.</p><p></p><p>Here are a couple of the better bucks I saw. I probably saw at least 5 better then these but not by a lot. </p><p><img src="https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4874/45991303031_fb244f3058_z.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p><img src="https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4854/44175389600_eae9289c4c_z.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dirtytough, post: 238832, member: 4832"] Not really. I base quality off of mature animals. And if animals are allowed to grow up you will have bucks with good genetics that can achieve high scoring antlers. As for the public/private deal. I hunt a few different areas that are on the edge of private. The top 5-7 bucks I saw during the hunt were on public. I've never seen a hunter on the different parcels of private either. My wifes buck was about half mile from private opening morning and around 100 yards away when the season opened. My buck was miles from private. A few things I think are possible reasons for the lack of quality the last few years. Guys filling archery tags with a rifle. To many tags. After the drastic tag cuts in '10 '11 it started taking longer for guys to draw. So they are putting more time an effort into the hunt since tags aren't coming as often. Technology is making longer shots easy. My wife made a 1 shot kill @413 yards on her deer. And 413 yards isn't even a long shot now days. A 16.5 day season during the heart of the rut. There is only so much cover and when the bucks are rutting they are in the open a lot more. And hunters just hunting harder in general. I saw guys that are completely out of shape a couple miles from the truck. My buddy at 6' 270lbs got his buck about 3 miles from the truck. [COLOR=silver][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] What about Saskatchewan? They have absolute giants. Its limited. Our country is a lot the same as Sask. As for the grasslands not having many 180 bucks I agree. But 2016 and prior I saw absolute studs that I thought rivaled Colorado. Not the top end bucks in Colorado. But the 170"-190" bucks. And a lot of mature bucks that don't score but are still heavy old bucks. In fact I chose to archery hunt ND instead of getting tags for out of state hunts. Every state has big bucks if they get age on them. Maybe we don't have the 180" 3.5 year olds that Wyoming does. But I guarantee we would have 180" 5.5 year olds with mass. Here are a couple of the better bucks I saw. I probably saw at least 5 better then these but not by a lot. [img]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4874/45991303031_fb244f3058_z.jpg[/img] [img]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4854/44175389600_eae9289c4c_z.jpg[/img] [/QUOTE]
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