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<blockquote data-quote="dirtytough" data-source="post: 238840" data-attributes="member: 4832"><p>It could be great genetics. Or it could be the fact there is no otc mule deer season. There are extremely limited tags during the rut. The season with extremely limited tags only has a 5 day season not 16.5 days. </p><p></p><p>Look at Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, Arizona, and Colorado. Colorado kills those other states when it comes to BC bucks. But Colorado also used to be crappy until they started going to all draw for mule deer and actually managing. Idaho used to be the best when it comes to BC mule deer. Did they lose their genetics or is it because they have OTC general seasons? Same with Wyoming. It would rival Colorado if most of the units weren’t OTC for residents. </p><p></p><p>I personally think every state has the genetics. I used to live in Washington. It’s not known for big bucks. But I could find a big buck most years by hunting areas most guys wouldn’t. But the access in ND is to easy. It’s hard to get more then 3-4 miles from a road. Which doesn’t allow the deer to get away from hunters and grow up. </p><p></p><p>Some guys think there are bigger bucks on private. I would agree most years it’s true but this year I didn’t see much difference. Let’s say it is true that on average there are better bucks on private. Is that because of better genetics or because the deer are actually mature? Pretty sure a 3 strand fence isn’t kepping the genetics from the public land.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p>Here is a buck in Washington that I watched for 8 years as a 4 point. </p><p>Here is the first year I took pics of him. Looks a lot like most of the 4 points I saw in the badlands this year.</p><p><img src="https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1411/1094449254_e033d6c3fb_z.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p><img src="https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1128/1024798818_dfdcdaf6f2_z.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>4 years later he was in his prime score wise probably. </p><p><img src="https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7200/6966208383_5d22df03eb_z.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p><img src="https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7206/6820087280_9a3b762d19_z.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>Here he is 2 years later regressing. Smaller forks but still plenty of mass. </p><p><img src="https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7396/9602001594_0251420d9d_z.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p><img src="https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7416/9446102707_fd1b97baa7_z.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Only difference I see between this buck and the 30 like it I saw in the grasslands during the rifle hunt this year is age.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dirtytough, post: 238840, member: 4832"] It could be great genetics. Or it could be the fact there is no otc mule deer season. There are extremely limited tags during the rut. The season with extremely limited tags only has a 5 day season not 16.5 days. Look at Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, Arizona, and Colorado. Colorado kills those other states when it comes to BC bucks. But Colorado also used to be crappy until they started going to all draw for mule deer and actually managing. Idaho used to be the best when it comes to BC mule deer. Did they lose their genetics or is it because they have OTC general seasons? Same with Wyoming. It would rival Colorado if most of the units weren’t OTC for residents. I personally think every state has the genetics. I used to live in Washington. It’s not known for big bucks. But I could find a big buck most years by hunting areas most guys wouldn’t. But the access in ND is to easy. It’s hard to get more then 3-4 miles from a road. Which doesn’t allow the deer to get away from hunters and grow up. Some guys think there are bigger bucks on private. I would agree most years it’s true but this year I didn’t see much difference. Let’s say it is true that on average there are better bucks on private. Is that because of better genetics or because the deer are actually mature? Pretty sure a 3 strand fence isn’t kepping the genetics from the public land. [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] Here is a buck in Washington that I watched for 8 years as a 4 point. Here is the first year I took pics of him. Looks a lot like most of the 4 points I saw in the badlands this year. [IMG]https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1411/1094449254_e033d6c3fb_z.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1128/1024798818_dfdcdaf6f2_z.jpg[/IMG] 4 years later he was in his prime score wise probably. [IMG]https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7200/6966208383_5d22df03eb_z.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7206/6820087280_9a3b762d19_z.jpg[/IMG] Here he is 2 years later regressing. Smaller forks but still plenty of mass. [IMG]https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7396/9602001594_0251420d9d_z.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7416/9446102707_fd1b97baa7_z.jpg[/IMG] Only difference I see between this buck and the 30 like it I saw in the grasslands during the rifle hunt this year is age. [/QUOTE]
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