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<blockquote data-quote="Migrator Man" data-source="post: 297650" data-attributes="member: 2369">93% of Federal subsidies goes to renewables. 7% to fossil fuels. And a majority of our energy comes from fossils fuels. New argument please!- - - Updated - - -Not exactly true there are a ton of refineries that want heavy oil. Maybe you are talking about a sour crude. The Great Lakes refineries are all fitted to refine this oil that originally came from over seas and now is mainly supplied by Canada. Refineries like oil sands oil because it makes more of the asphalt than a Bakken crude does. That is probably why Koch is running heavy oil right now to meet the demand of asphalt while the demand for all other fuels is very low. This oil from Canada is cheap because they are over supplied and have limited transport options just like Bakken crude.- - - Updated - - -The demand for condensate will come back as soon as the demand for fuels in the US comes back. The refineries in the Midwest rely on Canada for their oil so they can ramp back up once the refineries are ready.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Migrator Man, post: 297650, member: 2369"] 93% of Federal subsidies goes to renewables. 7% to fossil fuels. And a majority of our energy comes from fossils fuels. New argument please! [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] Not exactly true there are a ton of refineries that want heavy oil. Maybe you are talking about a sour crude. The Great Lakes refineries are all fitted to refine this oil that originally came from over seas and now is mainly supplied by Canada. Refineries like oil sands oil because it makes more of the asphalt than a Bakken crude does. That is probably why Koch is running heavy oil right now to meet the demand of asphalt while the demand for all other fuels is very low. This oil from Canada is cheap because they are over supplied and have limited transport options just like Bakken crude. [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] The demand for condensate will come back as soon as the demand for fuels in the US comes back. The refineries in the Midwest rely on Canada for their oil so they can ramp back up once the refineries are ready. [/QUOTE]

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