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<blockquote data-quote="KDM" data-source="post: 142032" data-attributes="member: 314">Just wait for it.&nbsp; It'll show up.&nbsp; It's just a matter of time before the groups splinter and get it going.&nbsp; Usually it's the rifle boys bitching about the arrow flingers or vice versa, but I'm keeping my options open at this point in the thread. As far as the improvement goes, I've tried to improve this process for several years and have had numerous discussions with Mr. Jeb Williams about this issue and have stated that I would be his biggest proponent if the ND GNF would just show me the scientific data that drives their decision making process.&nbsp; There are several posts from me about such interactions.&nbsp; I've investigated the ND GNF's survey process for white tails and how many times they have performed a survey for white tails in the past 13 years for not only 2G, but for most of the other hunting units in the state.&nbsp; I was NOT IMPRESSED at what I found.&nbsp; To be totally honest with you, I'm tired of hearing whines and cries from hunters that have neither the drive, nor the inclination to become informed about the process and would prefer to just drink a beer and bitch.&nbsp; Come to think of it, I just helped a fellow NDA'er tag out on a deer today and we shared a shot of whiskey and a couple beers to celebrate, so I'm going to refrain from a drunken rant.&nbsp; Though I'm sure it would add immensely to the entertainment of this thread.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KDM, post: 142032, member: 314"] Just wait for it. It'll show up. It's just a matter of time before the groups splinter and get it going. Usually it's the rifle boys bitching about the arrow flingers or vice versa, but I'm keeping my options open at this point in the thread. As far as the improvement goes, I've tried to improve this process for several years and have had numerous discussions with Mr. Jeb Williams about this issue and have stated that I would be his biggest proponent if the ND GNF would just show me the scientific data that drives their decision making process. There are several posts from me about such interactions. I've investigated the ND GNF's survey process for white tails and how many times they have performed a survey for white tails in the past 13 years for not only 2G, but for most of the other hunting units in the state. I was NOT IMPRESSED at what I found. To be totally honest with you, I'm tired of hearing whines and cries from hunters that have neither the drive, nor the inclination to become informed about the process and would prefer to just drink a beer and bitch. Come to think of it, I just helped a fellow NDA'er tag out on a deer today and we shared a shot of whiskey and a couple beers to celebrate, so I'm going to refrain from a drunken rant. Though I'm sure it would add immensely to the entertainment of this thread. [/QUOTE]

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