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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BrokenBackJack" data-source="post: 316263" data-attributes="member: 642">Yes if he goes for the vitals.As far as brute strength and power, moose hands down.  It would be like a 4 wheel drive tractor and a H international having a pulling contest.I am talking mature bulls on both sides of course.- - - Updated - - -Update on our neighbor who took her first shot and couldn't stay awake.They took her to the ER and all tests showed nothing wrong but they couldn't get her to wake up and stay awake. They put her in a long term care facility and she hasn't been awake since the ER. Yesterday they put her in Hospice Care and it is only a matter of time before she passes we have been told.This all started within hours of her first shot of the vaccine. Perfectly healthy before that.Be aware, people can be immune to reactions or can be extremely susceptible to reactions and any place in between too.They told my bride she better not take them as she is/has or suffers from Anaphylaxis which causes her blood pressure to drop and her airways to close up. It is scary as heck when this has happened to her in the past. The last time we had to take her to the ER as i gave her an injection of epinephrine and got her to ER as it wasn't helping her this time. She was gasping for air and i was driving like a madman as we were in the country and about 30 miles from the hospital.They ended up giving her 3 more shots in the ER and finally after 3-4 hours the swelling started to go down. They cautioned us as each episode is getting more severe and the next one might be the last one!So please be cautious is all i am saying.Was also told don't take these shots if you have taken the shingles vaccine in the last 2 months. They said they wouldn't recommend this vaccine if you have taken "any" vaccine in the last 2 months. So just food for thought here.God bless you all.</blockquote>

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