Electrical Question

[fishdrinkhunt]

I want to wire a 220 volt submersible pump to a temp power set up from a transformer. I need to bury 300 ft. of wire so I can get my well running. I was wondering if I could use 3-10 AWG TYPE MTW GR1 600 VOLT UL WIRE? They are single strand wires and are not connected. The wire coming out of the well head is a 10-2 flat with ground. This is only temporary until I build a house on the lot in a couple of years. Then it will be wired to the power panel in the house. Thanks

 

[espringers]

Short answer imho... yes.

 

[eyexer]

Absolutely. Most times they use single wires taped together every so many feet. You just won’t use
the ground wire. Just black and white. Make sure you are in a 30 amp breaker.

 

[Sparky714]

Absolutely. Most times they use single wires taped together every so many feet. You just won’t use
the ground wire. Just black and white. Make sure you are in a 30 amp breaker.

This is wrong on so many levels. You absolutely want to use a ground, especially on a well. If something goes wrong with the pump, it provides a return path to open a breaker or fuse instead of electrocuting you when you go see why the pump stopped. And MTW is not rated for direct burial. If you want it safe and reliable, buy 300' of UF(underground feeder) wire from Menards.

 

[Achucker]

The long answer. No. This type of wire is used for tool and appliance wiring. Not intended for underground. I dont think the insulation would last by the time you built a house.
Second you are running 10 gauge wire for 300 feet the volt drop on that would be about 5 volts. This dont sound like much but will shorten the life of the motor.
Third. Why would you want to dig this twice. Dig to or past an area where you think your house may be. And run some UF wire that will handle the distance. When the house comes you can always locate, cut and splice on to this wire from the feed from the house.
Fourth any and all work needs to be inspected by the state in ND so make sure you get the proper permits (even temp installation).

Good luck

 

[cavedude]

You should probably contact a local electrical contractor. Not taking into account the type of wire and the length of your run could be dangerous. I would have a licenced electrician do the work even though it is just "temporary". And this isn't because I'm an electeician.

 

[1bigfokker]

Do it once- do it right.

 

[Maddog]

I want to wire a 220 volt submersible pump to a temp power set up from a transformer. I need to bury 300 ft. of wire so I can get my well running. I was wondering if I could use 3-10 AWG TYPE MTW GR1 600 VOLT UL WIRE? They are single strand wires and are not connected. The wire coming out of the well head is a 10-2 flat with ground. This is only temporary until I build a house on the lot in a couple of years. Then it will be wired to the power panel in the house. Thanks

One needs to know the amperage draw of the pump . . . I tead the answers quickly but didn't see any one caring what that is ??
Also backseat electricians doesn't cut it when you start talking about long electrical runs.

You need to at least get advice from a master electrician or have one do the work for you.

The peanut gallery doesn't cut it in this case. IMO

 

[LBrandt]

If you are having an electrician do your house he might give you a break on putting in the wire for the pump. Just a thought.

 

[eyexer]

This is wrong on so many levels. You absolutely want to use a ground, especially on a well. If something goes wrong with the pump, it provides a return path to open a breaker or fuse instead of electrocuting you when you go see why the pump stopped. And MTW is not rated for direct burial. If you want it safe and reliable, buy 300' of UF(underground feeder) wire from Menards.

didn't sound like there was a ground wire on the pump. so he couldn't just magically put one on there lol. I assumed he knew to use the correct wire.

 

[Smuscha]

Go to border states and get yourself some #2 u.g triplex. Put a junction box at the wellhead and run whatever you want from there

 

[SDMF]

Watch out for the Marsalvanes and the Panametric Pham.

 

[fishdrinkhunt]

I think I am going to leave it to the professionals, I'm just going to dig the trench to save some time and money. Thanks for everyone's input!

 

[Achucker]

One needs to know the amperage draw of the pump . . . I tead the answers quickly but didn't see any one caring what that is ??
Also backseat electricians doesn't cut it when you start talking about long electrical runs.

You need to at least get advice from a master electrician or have one do the work for you.

The peanut gallery doesn't cut it in this case. IMO

I assumed a 3/4 hp motor. He did get advice from a master and based on some avatar names maybe a couple of journeyman.

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I think I am going to leave it to the professionals, I'm just going to dig the trench to save some time and money. Thanks for everyone's input!

This is a good call. Electricity is not something to take lightly. If you do it wrong you dont just have a mess to clean up you may end a life!

 

[Sparky714]

didn't sound like there was a ground wire on the pump. so he couldn't just magically put one on there lol. I assumed he knew to use the correct wire.

There is no way a submersible pump doesn't have ground provisions, and if someone installed it with out one, it needs to be pulled up and fixed. Nothing magical about it. This is why some jobs are better left to the professionals.

 

[fishdrinkhunt]

The pump that was installed by Backman Drilling was a Goulds 18GS10422C 2 Wire 1 HP 230V 4" Submersible Water Well Pump with Motor. Well depth was at 70 ft.

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The wire that was used for the pump was a 10-2 flat with ground.

 

[Sparky714]

The pump that was installed by Backman Drilling was a Goulds 18GS10422C 2 Wire 1 HP 230V 4" Submersible Water Well Pump with Motor. Well depth was at 70 ft.

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The wire that was used for the pump was a 10-2 flat with ground.

Thumbs Up You should be good to go with the pump. Good decision on calling in a pro to do the wiring. Doing the trenching yourself will help keep the price down. Good luck on your home build.

 

[Migrator Man]

There is no way a submersible pump doesn't have ground provisions, and if someone installed it with out one, it needs to be pulled up and fixed. Nothing magical about it. This is why some jobs are better left to the professionals.

Better get a quote or the electrician will show up on the job with no supplies and then make a run to BSE for about 2 hours, then break time, then milk it til lunch, lunch, and then hopefully done by afternoon break. That simple termination shouldn’t take very long.

 

[sierra1995]

This is a good call. Electricity is not something to take lightly. If you do it wrong you dont just have a mess to clean up you may end a life!

This! I've always said that if you do your own plumbing, you'll can flood your house, you do your own HVAC, you'll have a room too hot or too cold. Do you own electrical, you could blow up. Leave it to someone that does it for a living.

 

[Achucker]

Better get a quote or the electrician will show up on the job with no supplies and then make a run to BSE for about 2 hours, then break time, then milk it til lunch, lunch, and then hopefully done by afternoon break. That simple termination shouldn’t take very long.

Sounds like you've hired crappy electricians