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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tim Sandstrom" data-source="post: 105938" data-attributes="member: 1108">The issue with the ACOE is they still to this day don't really care about recreation.  Its easier for them to lock down the land and make it more difficult to develop for whatever recreation topic.  But that said, they have shown signs they are willing to cooperate when motivated individuals do something versus talk about how bad they hate the ACOE.  Example, the ACOE wanted to close down Reunion Bay.  The Big Bend township formed a park board and are now working with the ACOE to keep Reunion open but also enhance and expand it.  I get a little frustrated in that process because the ACOE doesn't "trust" the board enough to give them what they want right away.  Instead we have to earn it and prove they are worthy.  But I can see that to a point so it is what it is.I'm a believer that local entities (state, county or township) can better handle public lands (to an extent).  You won't get me saying otherwise.  But that's not always across the board either.  But in general, I believe that.  I'm a private rights guy.  But I also have grown up enjoying public lands and see the benefit many overlook which is the ease of access to do things in the outdoors limiting the barriers that can exist with privately controlled lands.  There needs to be a balance there and I think in North Dakota, we are sort of there.The National Grasslands in the Badlands seem to be managed well enough.  I don't have the insider ranch talk but the 4-8 bucks they pay to graze the lands seems pretty reasonable (maybe the price has changed, idk but I was told that was a common rate).  Maybe the Grasslands doesn't allow as much grazing as a rancher would like but I can tell you now spending many hours out there I appreciate the control placed as I've seen extreme grazing acres butted up to Grasslands and I'm a bit surprised a rancher would want to graze their land down like that.  Maybe he is an extremist...I dont' know.  But point is, I'm not sure the forest service office here is too aggressive.  That doesn't mean they dont' exist elsewhere!  So please take note I'm on record saying that.My big question is our state is dependent upon commodities.  Commodities swing and when they swing they swing hard.  Our budget is a bit of a mess now and would the state have the money available to take care of the lands and develop the lands any better than the feds in times like this?  I think that's a fair question to ask!In the case of the ACOE there will never be the barrier broken especially when it comes to water recreation.  The ACOE will continue to control the land from 1838 on down to the bottom of the lake, river.  When we add in a 3rd party entity (whether private individual or the TAT) we are adding in another level of complexity.I don't like how Jim Schmidt is steam rolling the lame duck Governor and defying the public by reintroducing private transfer of lands when the public amended that right out of 1456.- - - Updated - - -Lycan and John or for that matter anyone else. I cannot do this myself. YOU MUST PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL the Governor's Office and the US legislators yourself. Tell them you are against any transfer of lands and that you believe there are few if any lands in excess of the Garrison Dam project.The only way anything will be accomplished in the public's favor is if you make the effort along side me.And lycan, I have contacted Hoeven's office. They say all US legislators are on board. Even Heidi.</blockquote>

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