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<blockquote data-quote="snow1" data-source="post: 330428" data-attributes="member: 7725">LOL,agreed....these clowns don't sweat the small stuff,it's all about the &quot;now&quot; fuzzy warm feeling and getting the well done trophy,never mind the power grids or what happens to these shoe box cars in 10 years when they all take a shit,&quot;then what?&quot;can't recycle these lithium batteries.river~ 120watt charge about 10 hours,240 2-4 hours...these quick charge stations I'm told 10 minutes...not sure tho...I remember the first year the Chevy volt came out,the cost to home owners to increase to 240 was about a $1500 tag.federal tax credit for ownership of said EV vehicle was $7500,not sure what the numbers are today?For me regarding GM's powertrain/battery,all &quot;made in china&quot; not sure about these other EV tho..Today look around at your local car lot's,zero inventory,the hold up is micro chips coming from china(cheaper to out source) last spring a dealer sent me a pdf on a 2021 3500 crew cab,diesel $96k!!! JHC!!Anyone thinking &quot;I need a new vehicle&quot; best wait or put your nutt's in a vice,most dealers are selling getting sticker price or more in some cases....rebates? not much to speak of.this issue of lack of new vehicle inventory is driving up used vehicle prices as well,good time for folks to sell any use vehicle right now iffin ya have a second family vehicle or bike to ride.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="snow1, post: 330428, member: 7725"] LOL,agreed....these clowns don't sweat the small stuff,it's all about the "now" fuzzy warm feeling and getting the well done trophy,never mind the power grids or what happens to these shoe box cars in 10 years when they all take a shit,"then what?"can't recycle these lithium batteries. river~ 120watt charge about 10 hours,240 2-4 hours...these quick charge stations I'm told 10 minutes...not sure tho... I remember the first year the Chevy volt came out,the cost to home owners to increase to 240 was about a $1500 tag.federal tax credit for ownership of said EV vehicle was $7500,not sure what the numbers are today? For me regarding GM's powertrain/battery,all "made in china" not sure about these other EV tho.. Today look around at your local car lot's,zero inventory,the hold up is micro chips coming from china(cheaper to out source) last spring a dealer sent me a pdf on a 2021 3500 crew cab,diesel $96k!!! JHC!! Anyone thinking "I need a new vehicle" best wait or put your nutt's in a vice,most dealers are selling getting sticker price or more in some cases....rebates? not much to speak of.this issue of lack of new vehicle inventory is driving up used vehicle prices as well,good time for folks to sell any use vehicle right now iffin ya have a second family vehicle or bike to ride. [/QUOTE]

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