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<blockquote data-quote="Icepirate" data-source="post: 437491" data-attributes="member: 8079"><p>Did anyone else find it ironic that Governor Armstrong gave the opening speech? Wasn't he the sponsor of the North Dakota Trust Lands Completion Act? Also, I don't think enough people are aware that North Dakota supports Utah's lawsuit regarding the transfer of federal lands to state land. This is all being done under the guise of "states rights." Not to derail the thread, but this lawsuit is very important when it comes to access. I know it's been covered in other threads, but most people I've talked to aren't aware of what's at stake with Utah's lawsuit. Its no surprise that North Dakota supports the lawsuit unfortunately. There are many reasons the transfer of federal land to state is bad for hunters but here's a short list.</p><p></p><p>1. This land already belongs to all the people of the U.S. Don't try to fool us and say it's for our benefit.</p><p></p><p>2. States are constitutionally mandated to manage state lands for a profit. What happens when they aren't making enough money by leasing it? They sell it. There's a long history of states selling off land they were granted at statehood.</p><p></p><p>3. In most cases state land doesn't offer the same opportunities as federal land. Take colorado for example. In colorado it is illegal to recreate on state land. State land is not considered public land in Colorado. In Colorado alone, a transfer of federal land to state land would cost access to around 23 million acres I believe. ( might be off some on that #). State lands in some states don't allow camping also. there are too many other restrictions to get into...</p><p></p><p>4. Who will the land be sold to? Most likely the highest bidder. (probably not a local rancher or farmer)</p><p></p><p>5. The lawsuit was started by Utah (enough said).</p><p></p><p>I could list more, but I've probably derailed the thread enough. This is very important on the subject of access though. Right now they changed the lawsuit to state BLM land, but we know it wouldn't stop there. Would National Wildlife Refuges be next ? Maybe the Little Missouri National Grasslands could be auctioned off to the highest bidder?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Icepirate, post: 437491, member: 8079"] Did anyone else find it ironic that Governor Armstrong gave the opening speech? Wasn't he the sponsor of the North Dakota Trust Lands Completion Act? Also, I don't think enough people are aware that North Dakota supports Utah's lawsuit regarding the transfer of federal lands to state land. This is all being done under the guise of "states rights." Not to derail the thread, but this lawsuit is very important when it comes to access. I know it's been covered in other threads, but most people I've talked to aren't aware of what's at stake with Utah's lawsuit. Its no surprise that North Dakota supports the lawsuit unfortunately. There are many reasons the transfer of federal land to state is bad for hunters but here's a short list. 1. This land already belongs to all the people of the U.S. Don't try to fool us and say it's for our benefit. 2. States are constitutionally mandated to manage state lands for a profit. What happens when they aren't making enough money by leasing it? They sell it. There's a long history of states selling off land they were granted at statehood. 3. In most cases state land doesn't offer the same opportunities as federal land. Take colorado for example. In colorado it is illegal to recreate on state land. State land is not considered public land in Colorado. In Colorado alone, a transfer of federal land to state land would cost access to around 23 million acres I believe. ( might be off some on that #). State lands in some states don't allow camping also. there are too many other restrictions to get into... 4. Who will the land be sold to? Most likely the highest bidder. (probably not a local rancher or farmer) 5. The lawsuit was started by Utah (enough said). I could list more, but I've probably derailed the thread enough. This is very important on the subject of access though. Right now they changed the lawsuit to state BLM land, but we know it wouldn't stop there. Would National Wildlife Refuges be next ? Maybe the Little Missouri National Grasslands could be auctioned off to the highest bidder? [/QUOTE]
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