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<blockquote data-quote="NPO_Aaron" data-source="post: 332718" data-attributes="member: 214"><p>This is going to be a long one. I filmed this hunt (not edited).</p><p> </p><p>First thing I want to address is the four wheeler. It was no more a “vehicle” in this situation than a post used to rest a gun on. If we would have driven it out into the field, hopped off, then shot, that would absolutely have been a problem. The law says you cannot be in or on a vehicle. In this case the vehicle was a “fixed object”. I spoke to G&F to clarify and they shared my sentiment.</p><p> </p><p>Secondly and most importantly, the story telling in this video missed the mark. I am going to be posting my version in a couple of weeks and it will more accurately show what happens in the last few minutes.</p><p></p><p>Here is the quick run down. The bull fell in the tall cattails and we weren’t able to find it right away. About 15 minutes later we walked up on it still alive. It got up, took two steps towards me and then fell again. Tyler walked up to the moose and quickly shot it in the heart. This was all done before what you see in his video. The bull continued to move for about 30 seconds after the heart shot. I wish he would have included that footage in his video, because without it, the scene seems off. (When we cleaned the bull both lungs were shot and the entire bottom of the heart was blown out.) The issue here is poor storytelling and not poor ethics. If we had the opportunity to re-do that hunt I would do everything the exact same way. I can tell you, if any of you fellas were there with us, you would agree.</p><p> </p><p>The biggest issue here is the way the story was told, it just wasn’t perfect. It missed some key parts at the end that would make everyone in this thread feel much better. The problem with filming hunts is that through editing you can pretty much craft the way the situation looks. In most cases, people do something less than desirable and make it look good. In this case it’s the exact opposite. Tyler did everything the right way. I’ll post my version when it’s done and I guarantee you will feel differently.</p><p> </p><p>Lastly, I want to address this. “When hunting videos became popular, and Youtube took over, that was the start of the downfall of hunting.”</p><p></p><p>You couldn’t be more wrong with this sentiment. Do you know how many people (specifically teenage kids) have taken an interest in the outdoors because of the youtube hunting and fishing community? The “downfall of hunting” is people who think that the way they do things is gospel and everyone else is ruining their game. The “downfall” is all the armchair perfect outdoorsmen who have never missed a shot or made a single mistake, that crush new people as soon as they try.</p><p>Most of us who film our hunts just want two things: 1. To have a memory that we get to keep forever and 2. To share our experiences with others. It’s that simple. This video misses something that I consider the most important out of it all. It doesn’t show the experience and emotion, it just shows an animal dying, and I hope that the 701 guys get better at that aspect of storytelling over time. As someone who films pretty much everything I do, my goal is to share my experience in a positive way and hopefully inspire someone else to give it a try.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NPO_Aaron, post: 332718, member: 214"] This is going to be a long one. I filmed this hunt (not edited). First thing I want to address is the four wheeler. It was no more a “vehicle” in this situation than a post used to rest a gun on. If we would have driven it out into the field, hopped off, then shot, that would absolutely have been a problem. The law says you cannot be in or on a vehicle. In this case the vehicle was a “fixed object”. I spoke to G&F to clarify and they shared my sentiment. Secondly and most importantly, the story telling in this video missed the mark. I am going to be posting my version in a couple of weeks and it will more accurately show what happens in the last few minutes. Here is the quick run down. The bull fell in the tall cattails and we weren’t able to find it right away. About 15 minutes later we walked up on it still alive. It got up, took two steps towards me and then fell again. Tyler walked up to the moose and quickly shot it in the heart. This was all done before what you see in his video. The bull continued to move for about 30 seconds after the heart shot. I wish he would have included that footage in his video, because without it, the scene seems off. (When we cleaned the bull both lungs were shot and the entire bottom of the heart was blown out.) The issue here is poor storytelling and not poor ethics. If we had the opportunity to re-do that hunt I would do everything the exact same way. I can tell you, if any of you fellas were there with us, you would agree. The biggest issue here is the way the story was told, it just wasn’t perfect. It missed some key parts at the end that would make everyone in this thread feel much better. The problem with filming hunts is that through editing you can pretty much craft the way the situation looks. In most cases, people do something less than desirable and make it look good. In this case it’s the exact opposite. Tyler did everything the right way. I’ll post my version when it’s done and I guarantee you will feel differently. Lastly, I want to address this. “When hunting videos became popular, and Youtube took over, that was the start of the downfall of hunting.” You couldn’t be more wrong with this sentiment. Do you know how many people (specifically teenage kids) have taken an interest in the outdoors because of the youtube hunting and fishing community? The “downfall of hunting” is people who think that the way they do things is gospel and everyone else is ruining their game. The “downfall” is all the armchair perfect outdoorsmen who have never missed a shot or made a single mistake, that crush new people as soon as they try. Most of us who film our hunts just want two things: 1. To have a memory that we get to keep forever and 2. To share our experiences with others. It’s that simple. This video misses something that I consider the most important out of it all. It doesn’t show the experience and emotion, it just shows an animal dying, and I hope that the 701 guys get better at that aspect of storytelling over time. As someone who films pretty much everything I do, my goal is to share my experience in a positive way and hopefully inspire someone else to give it a try. [/QUOTE]
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