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<blockquote data-quote="CatDaddy" data-source="post: 388218" data-attributes="member: 755">Can anyone please share with me exactly how Kirk single handedly lost all the games they have during his tenure?&nbsp; Or maybe a dozen of them?&nbsp; Or a couple?&nbsp; I'm trying to remember exactly when Kirk punched the ball out of JJ's hands when he fumbled through the end zone this year, or all those games last year when he just sat back and played prevent defense the whole game (every game), or when he asked his offensive line to only give him 1.5 seconds to throw the ball each game until this year.....There are so many plays during a game that cause losses.&nbsp; Do you need a good QB?&nbsp; Yes.&nbsp; Is it always the fault of the QB when they lose?&nbsp; Rarely.&nbsp; Kirk being the reason the Vikings haven't won more is a cop out, uninformed answer.&nbsp; Sure, I wish he had better pocket presence and was even slightly more mobile.&nbsp; And yes, I've been frustrated with fumbles at times.&nbsp; But &quot;it's all Kirk's fault&quot;?&nbsp; C'mon.&nbsp; He's been one of the best in the league the past few years.&nbsp; Football is more nuanced and complicated than most or any of us even come close to realizing.&nbsp; It's 53 guys and multiple coaches.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CatDaddy, post: 388218, member: 755"] Can anyone please share with me exactly how Kirk single handedly lost all the games they have during his tenure? Or maybe a dozen of them? Or a couple? I'm trying to remember exactly when Kirk punched the ball out of JJ's hands when he fumbled through the end zone this year, or all those games last year when he just sat back and played prevent defense the whole game (every game), or when he asked his offensive line to only give him 1.5 seconds to throw the ball each game until this year..... There are so many plays during a game that cause losses. Do you need a good QB? Yes. Is it always the fault of the QB when they lose? Rarely. Kirk being the reason the Vikings haven't won more is a cop out, uninformed answer. Sure, I wish he had better pocket presence and was even slightly more mobile. And yes, I've been frustrated with fumbles at times. But "it's all Kirk's fault"? C'mon. He's been one of the best in the league the past few years. Football is more nuanced and complicated than most or any of us even come close to realizing. It's 53 guys and multiple coaches. [/QUOTE]

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