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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gst" data-source="post: 207358" data-attributes="member: 373">Actually KDM if you are going ot talk about how to well manage lands not only for production but wildlife as well, Delta Waterfowl and yes even DU admitted that managed haying and grazing on a three year rotations IMPROVED the habitat, soil health and overall production..... a win/win for every one. Yet The National Wildlife Federation ignored not just soil health professionals but wildlife biologists and sued to change the rules to in some instances only 1 in 10 years managed haying of grazing. So lets have an honest discussion with the facts that it was NOT the govt that said no to managed haying and grazing, they worked in conjunction with some wildlife orgs to develop the program......it was the NWF that used litigation to stop the program both wildlife professionals and landowners , govt and sportsmen supported. Land owners are not the ONLY influencing factor of what happens on their lands. If you truly believe that you are uninformed of the truth. Numerous Federal laws and agencies have control even if you are not in any govt programs. Endangered species designation impacts control and usage of lands.........WOTUS is something perhaps you should learn a bit more about if you think the land owner is sole controller of what is done on their properties. I don;t necessarily disagree with most of what you said, lets just include ALL the influencing factors on why programs such as CRP disappeared and economics is NOT the sole factor.- - - Updated - - -KDM I can fill up 10 pages (have in the past) of examples of people being denied the right to do what they want on their lands even if they got all the permits and are not in any govt program simply because some org sued and the courts sided with them.even down ot not being able to collect rain water on your own property. <a href="https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/is-rainwater-harvesting-legal-in-your-state-us/61586739" target="_blank">https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/is-rainwater-harvesting-legal-in-your-state-us/61586739</a>- - - Updated - - -Here is a link that demonstartes the cooperative planning to cvreate a managed haying and grazing program that had wide spread support with CRP. https://pubs.usgs.gov/sir/2015/5070/pdf/sir2015-5070.pdf</blockquote>

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