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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bobkat" data-source="post: 347400" data-attributes="member: 8010">Used to be active on NOdak, quit for a few years but logged back in to p email a friend with advice about his current problem, then saw Lucan’s thread about PITBULLS!since retiring and travelling a lot and visiting many many off leash dog parks with our English Cocker, probably the most non violent or non aggressive dog ever whelped, UNLESS YOU ATE A PHEASANT OR RELATED SPECIES!  I was walking home after night fishin a few years ago in Arizona with my little mutt at leash, when out of nowhere two PITBULLS ran out of the dark and attacked, one grabbing my dog by the neck and the other latching on to her thigh.  I grabbed my dog and held her with my left arm as high as I could, lifting both pits into the air but they still held on, doing their best to bite and chew.   With my right hand all I could do was form a sort of fist an repeatedly clobber first one then the other dog with no avail.  The bigger one figured out when my fist was arriving and learned quickly to open its jaws to do its best to take a hunk out of my hand.   I wished I had anything for defense - I had been using a screwdriver on my boat a few minutes before and wished I’d had it still with me.  I’d have killed both those dogs in an instant!  Even if there had been just one I could have dropped my dog and leaped on one and either strangled it or bashed its head into the concrete.  My dog was screaming, (Me too but I won’t repeat what I said) anda bunch of people appeared to help, a couple armed.  The dogs owner, (turned out to be a lady lawyer) just stood there yelling at me “Don’t hurt my dogs,,”.  Both dogs had long leashes she had dropped and all she had to do was pull them off but she just yelled threats and curses at me, and my wife who heard our dog screamin a block away from inside the house andf down to help.To make a long story short I finally got the one dog off by crushing its foot repeatedlygainst the sidewalk, then ran like hell with my dog back to our rental place.  The second dog ultimately fell off.We called the city animal control people and security and police arrived.    Big meeting with all our community members the next day, with over half armed and wanted to shoot those pits!  Bottom line after days of threats from them “If you start anything from this I’ll finish it!).  She was active politically so didn’t even have her dogs kicked out of the place! Wasn’t even warned!  what was even WORSE (I and my dog got patched and stitched up) it turned out she was an avid antivaxer and we think she hadn’t had her dogs rabies vaccinated even though it was a state law, etc.  I told her all I wanted was proof of vaccination but though even the animal control people demanded it too, she never did and refused - she seemed to indicate she was above the law and didn’t have to!     So I had to have my three rabies vaccinations at 100 Bucks apiece and she even refused to pay that!!! Or any medical or get stuff!    To this day, she still has  the sane pits and unfortunately their place is by the marina so any of us taking our dogs fishing generally are armed with various things.  I even carry my .380 sometimes in case history wants to repeat itself.  Screw drivers, switch blades, stun guns - hat ever is handy…..Last year I saw another PITBULLS attackin the dog park and a guy pulled a .380 and was really close to snuffing that damned dog.  He showed it to me, a nice Kel Tec.  A bit fancier than my lil Ruger but either will do the job.in Al our many many trips to dog parks we’ve witnessed so many pit attacks, one fatal on a black lab, that we avoid any parks where we see one of,them.lycan said it best -they are good nice dogs until they aren’t!   I’m sure pheasants would say that about my bird dog too. But both species are simply doing what they have been bred to do for hundreds of years.  My spaniel with birds, pits with other dogs, their only purpose was to kill the other dog in the ring.  Sooner or later under the right circumstances both species are going to do what they are genetically programmed to to!  Chase a bird or kill another dog.  I love all dogs, other than pits.  How can you tell?   The only good thing to come of this is that if a reader and I ever get into,a,fight and I,bite you, you won’t get rabies! LOL</blockquote>

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