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I don't know much about the smart end of AI but I do know we are already seeing a new industrial revolution like no other known to man and there is no turning back just yet. We already have robots building robots that are interconnected with each other. Say for example ,you have a team of 1000 robots and pair as many as you want to up with a human to teach them everything from simple tasks to building a house or manufacturing jobe , oil drilling the new modern day roughneck. They are all interconnected, say you take 5 of them and teach them as a crew how to put a piece of pipe in the mousehole on a drilling rig. All 5 learn who's job it is to do what. All 1000 can learn the exact same sequence at the press of a button and now you have 1000 efficient rig crew members. Say one slips in the mud and goes ass over tea kettle and falls and gets busted up, a new crew member comes walking and does his job and when they have time they will fix the broken robot. That's just an example that I happen to realize the potential for and I used the number 1000 for example . There are millions of people working and thinking the exact things as we are right now as we discussing this. This isn't science fiction , this is the real deal boys, ready or not. And no, I'm not crazy .
 


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Here's something interesting.

AI and the next generation computer chips being developed by NVIDIA will soon be able to crack the blockchain code, making crypto currencies worthless.
 

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I don't know much about the smart end of AI but I do know we are already seeing a new industrial revolution like no other known to man and there is no turning back just yet. We already have robots building robots that are interconnected with each other. Say for example ,you have a team of 1000 robots and pair as many as you want to up with a human to teach them everything from simple tasks to building a house or manufacturing jobe , oil drilling the new modern day roughneck. They are all interconnected, say you take 5 of them and teach them as a crew how to put a piece of pipe in the mousehole on a drilling rig. All 5 learn who's job it is to do what. All 1000 can learn the exact same sequence at the press of a button and now you have 1000 efficient rig crew members. Say one slips in the mud and goes ass over tea kettle and falls and gets busted up, a new crew member comes walking and does his job and when they have time they will fix the broken robot. That's just an example that I happen to realize the potential for and I used the number 1000 for example . There are millions of people working and thinking the exact things as we are right now as we discussing this. This isn't science fiction , this is the real deal boys, ready or not. And no, I'm not crazy .
Elon was in an interview not long ago and he predicted in the future everything will be free, essentially. Because it will all be made by robots, most humans wont need jobs anymore...
 

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Elon was in an interview not long ago and he predicted in the future everything will be free, essentially. Because it will all be made by robots, most humans wont need jobs anymore...

Yup, we can become organic gardeners and grow food for the world for beer and minnow money while sitting here bullshitting about it . Haha. We are in for a heck of a big change in lifestyle
 


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While that's all true KDM, what's the NEXT STEP? Will AI be able to create NEW discoveries on it's own using data or asking for data we never thought of. It can already write movies and novels and then create the images when asked. Will it be able to just do it by itself at some point without any directives?
I have no idea what the next step will be. You tell me. AI is a useful tool that can crunch data faster than most humans. Can it be autonomous without human input. I don't think so. Do I think we should get rid of it. No. Would I trust it to make decisions for me. Absolutely NOT. Like Lycan said, it could be used for good or evil. It's completely up to us. The humans. Can AI decide to be evil or good on it's own, completely isolated from human biases. I don't think so. Take it or leave it. It's just how I look at it.
 

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obviously, because that is the only data that is currently available, because we are the only intelligent species that collects data in our solar system. As AI progresses, it will become better at collecting its own data im sure, but AI is brand new tech, cant really be unreasonable in your expectations. We are also all working with information and data other humans came up with, over thousands or tens of thousands of years. It wont take AI nearly that long to develop its own data and systems I predict.
I don't think AI can collect any data on it's own. It can only analyze what is given to it. No more, no less. How does AI collect soil samples? How does AI sample corn varieties to find out which ones grow best in sandy soils? How does AI take blood from patients? How does AI perform crash tests for new cars. How does AI determine vaccine reactions from pregnant women? How does AI create habitats for humans to live at 3000 ft under the surface of the ocean? It can't do any of that. Humans have to do the work and upload the data. Then AI can crunch the numbers and spit out a prediction. That is the truth of it. Is it useful, YES. Is it some overarching entity that is so much better than real people. NOPE!
 


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As with any technology, it has the potential to be used for the benefit of humankind or the detriment. Will it be able to collect data on its own, possibly, look at how smaller lighter processors and batteries have allowed the rapid growth of drones. Human research has already devised many ways for drones to collect data. It may not be a difficult transition. The question is if it makes the jump to mimicking human emotions... it may be a savior or it may be the end of us.
Anyone looking for an interesting take on AI read the original I Robot or Rossum's Universal Robotics.
 


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I don't think AI can collect any data on it's own. It can only analyze what is given to it. No more, no less. How does AI collect soil samples? How does AI sample corn varieties to find out which ones grow best in sandy soils? How does AI take blood from patients? How does AI perform crash tests for new cars. How does AI determine vaccine reactions from pregnant women? How does AI create habitats for humans to live at 3000 ft under the surface of the ocean? It can't do any of that. Humans have to do the work and upload the data. Then AI can crunch the numbers and spit out a prediction. That is the truth of it. Is it useful, YES. Is it some overarching entity that is so much better than real people. NOPE!
There's the rub. Who/what inputs the data. You can extrapolate from current events. In my estimation we're at the comparable point in History where the Wright Brothers (dubious) bested the Montgolfier Brothers.

According to Kelly Johnson on his death bed we were already doing "Star Trek" shit in the 60's and 70's which is why Apollo Astronauts sometimes referred to themselves as "Spam in a can": If you're interested; start with Roswell:

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you are wrong, AI is already making discoveries that will likely change the world,
I will agree with KDM. People specialize. For example a bachelor's degree in entomology is very general. An acquaintance at NDSU specialized in the Lepidoptera family working on means to use a bacteria to destroy the digestive system of corn ear worm. A fellow doing a PhD on Chironomidae, a very difficult family to identify species, used the crushed saliva gland under the microscope to identify species. My point is the entirety of knowledge is to great for any 100 people to contain. A computer on the other hand can be built with expandable memory and contain information beyond 1000 men, but it's still information in and information out, and all that information came from thousands of contributions, all human. Ai can contain information far beyond any one human capability, but it's synthesized human knowledge.
 


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