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<blockquote data-quote="wct12" data-source="post: 450081" data-attributes="member: 8117"><p>I said something needed to change, but wasn’t sure of the answer in my first post.. I also said I don’t have the answers of what to do but maybe having landowners and sportsmen sit at the table with the department to try and come up with an idea, or the department ask for input from both sides at things like advisory board meetings to try and come up with an answer would have been a solid start.. What I don’t like about this bill is that the department backed it while only taking input from one side (I’m sure getting a few more bucks in their pocket didn’t hurt the decision either).</p><p></p><p>I said it’s a 2 way street.. that means both sides need to work on it.. but the department only ever invites one side to the table (sportsmen). Maybe actually listening to input from some landowners instead of these “special” sportsmen’s orgs would be a good start to try and reduce this. I did not go to the access and habitat summit in bismarck so maybe that was a start.. but I’ve heard from multiple on both sides of the isle that the best part of that was the snacks. The way landowners rectify the situation is through habitat and access. Lots of farmers wouldn’t mind planting habitat and allowing access (I’m on a local sportsmen org and we gave it away 250 acres of plot seed a year as a small group and work with the NRCS on a few things and they are very well received, but we get input from both sides on things to do so that really helps). But the problem is they usually never get a seat at the table so their comments/concerns/questions are never even heard.</p><p></p><p>What kind of productive talks do you have when</p><p></p><p>-sportsmen post the subsidies website and bash on landowners</p><p>-sportsmen scream they are a public resource but only want to deal with them 2 days before season to the sunset season closes and then hope the landowner does a good job helping them survive</p><p>-yelling at them they have every right to be on their private property and there is 0 reason it all needs to be “posted” without being posted.. (all 3 states that surround us are this way and and the 2 provinces that touch us if I remember correctly)</p><p></p><p>It’s not just sportsmen that need to come to the table, but they are the only ones that get an invite. Maybe the landowners are so upset because this bill was drafted with 0 input from their side/perspective because they didn’t even get an opportunity to have a seat that table.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wct12, post: 450081, member: 8117"] I said something needed to change, but wasn’t sure of the answer in my first post.. I also said I don’t have the answers of what to do but maybe having landowners and sportsmen sit at the table with the department to try and come up with an idea, or the department ask for input from both sides at things like advisory board meetings to try and come up with an answer would have been a solid start.. What I don’t like about this bill is that the department backed it while only taking input from one side (I’m sure getting a few more bucks in their pocket didn’t hurt the decision either). I said it’s a 2 way street.. that means both sides need to work on it.. but the department only ever invites one side to the table (sportsmen). Maybe actually listening to input from some landowners instead of these “special” sportsmen’s orgs would be a good start to try and reduce this. I did not go to the access and habitat summit in bismarck so maybe that was a start.. but I’ve heard from multiple on both sides of the isle that the best part of that was the snacks. The way landowners rectify the situation is through habitat and access. Lots of farmers wouldn’t mind planting habitat and allowing access (I’m on a local sportsmen org and we gave it away 250 acres of plot seed a year as a small group and work with the NRCS on a few things and they are very well received, but we get input from both sides on things to do so that really helps). But the problem is they usually never get a seat at the table so their comments/concerns/questions are never even heard. What kind of productive talks do you have when -sportsmen post the subsidies website and bash on landowners -sportsmen scream they are a public resource but only want to deal with them 2 days before season to the sunset season closes and then hope the landowner does a good job helping them survive -yelling at them they have every right to be on their private property and there is 0 reason it all needs to be “posted” without being posted.. (all 3 states that surround us are this way and and the 2 provinces that touch us if I remember correctly) It’s not just sportsmen that need to come to the table, but they are the only ones that get an invite. Maybe the landowners are so upset because this bill was drafted with 0 input from their side/perspective because they didn’t even get an opportunity to have a seat that table. [/QUOTE]
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