What a couple of tragic stories and situations, people just need to control their emotions, obviously its not worth getting killed or killing someone over a dispute that isnt going to be solved in short order. Just walk away or better yet dont put yourself in potentially deadly situation, call the cops and let them handle it. There is plenty of blame on both sides, who is guilty or not guilty will be decided in court and thats a crap shoot these days, depends on your lawyer, how aggressive the prosecutors are, the judge and jury, its a high risk gamble to kill and claim self defense these days.