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<blockquote data-quote="gst" data-source="post: 152984" data-attributes="member: 373"><p>I have shared before links to studies that show states have and can manage public lands far more fiscally responsibly than the Feds. so this is not necessarily the case. In those studies the states show a return per acre MANY times over what the fed does. As to the wild fire issue, the agreement should carry a liability clause stating that until proper management reduces the risk of catastrophic fires the Federal govt is responsible for fire fighting costs related to their mismanagement. </p><p></p><p>timber sales from properly managed state lands have shown that not only are catastrophic fire risls lowered substantially but the income generated returns a profit to the state.</p><p></p><p>And any agreement transfering lands to the states can and most likely would contain language to require them to be kept public to be successful. That transfer agreement would be voted on at the Federal level, not the state level. (the state would likely have to vote on whether to accept the terms of the transfer) Remember the representatives in the states with the fewest acres of public land far out number the representatives from the states with the greatest acres of public lands so who do you think would win a vote on a plan to allow the state these lands are in to sell them off and take them away from those residents of the other states ? </p><p></p><p><a href="http://growinggeorgia.com/features/2016/06/states-better-feds-managing-land/" target="_blank">http://growinggeorgia.com/features/2016/06/states-better-feds-managing-land/</a></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0A0A0A">[FONT=&quot]A 2015 PERC report concluded that, “Federal land agencies lose billions of dollars each year managing valuable resources on federal lands.” The statistics were supported by a comparison of how Arizona, Idaho, Montana and New Mexico manage trust land vs. the federal government’s management of federal lands, and claimed that, “every dollar spent on state trust land management generates an average $14.51 for each $1 spent, (while) The [/FONT]</span><a href="http://www.fs.fed.us/" target="_blank">U.S. Forest Service (USFS)</a><span style="color: #0A0A0A">[FONT=&quot] and the [/FONT]</span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bureau_of_Land_Management" target="_blank">Bureau of Land Management (BLM),</a><span style="color: #0A0A0A">[FONT=&quot] Interior, generates only $.73 for every dollar spent on federal land.”[/FONT]</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You mean like Harry Reid and his minion in the BLM selling off federal public lands to line their pockets? It is already happening. </p><p></p><p>Actually the emboldened print is not an accurate statement as those federal lands were INTENDED to be sold off to fund the development of schools and colleges and other things needed to settle these lands. It was part of the agreement the Federal govt entered into with the states. On another site I shared an extensive amount of information and links to provide the facts behind the sale of those public lands. </p><p></p><p>I was hoping this discussion could be a positive one without the usual rhetoric of lining pockets ect. I agree lets try to fix the system under this administration, but if the reality of "fixing" federal systems does not change, the question is at what point does one support something different?</p><p></p><p>How does one "fix" the broken system? the links below shows how broken it actually is. Had the state assets been allowed to fly perhaps those fires would not have cost so much to put out.</p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/montana-helicopters-sidelined-from-fighting-federal-fires/article_cdd084ed-dfdd-598b-9a42-ee822849595a.html" target="_blank">http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/montana-helicopters-sidelined-from-fighting-federal-fires/article_cdd084ed-dfdd-598b-9a42-ee822849595a.html</a></p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://watchdog.org/235250/montana-wildfires/" target="_blank">http://watchdog.org/235250/montana-wildfires/</a></p><p></p><p>And yet another example of how broken the system is. </p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.denverpost.com/2014/10/17/can-states-manage-public-lands-better-than-the-federal-government-yes/" target="_blank">http://www.denverpost.com/2014/10/17/can-states-manage-public-lands-better-than-the-federal-government-yes/</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gst, post: 152984, member: 373"] I have shared before links to studies that show states have and can manage public lands far more fiscally responsibly than the Feds. so this is not necessarily the case. In those studies the states show a return per acre MANY times over what the fed does. As to the wild fire issue, the agreement should carry a liability clause stating that until proper management reduces the risk of catastrophic fires the Federal govt is responsible for fire fighting costs related to their mismanagement. timber sales from properly managed state lands have shown that not only are catastrophic fire risls lowered substantially but the income generated returns a profit to the state. And any agreement transfering lands to the states can and most likely would contain language to require them to be kept public to be successful. That transfer agreement would be voted on at the Federal level, not the state level. (the state would likely have to vote on whether to accept the terms of the transfer) Remember the representatives in the states with the fewest acres of public land far out number the representatives from the states with the greatest acres of public lands so who do you think would win a vote on a plan to allow the state these lands are in to sell them off and take them away from those residents of the other states ? [url]http://growinggeorgia.com/features/2016/06/states-better-feds-managing-land/[/url] [COLOR=#0A0A0A][FONT="]A 2015 PERC report concluded that, “Federal land agencies lose billions of dollars each year managing valuable resources on federal lands.” The statistics were supported by a comparison of how Arizona, Idaho, Montana and New Mexico manage trust land vs. the federal government’s management of federal lands, and claimed that, “every dollar spent on state trust land management generates an average $14.51 for each $1 spent, (while) The [/FONT][/COLOR][URL="http://www.fs.fed.us/"]U.S. Forest Service (USFS)[/URL][COLOR=#0A0A0A][FONT="] and the [/FONT][/COLOR][URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bureau_of_Land_Management"]Bureau of Land Management (BLM),[/URL][COLOR=#0A0A0A][FONT="] Interior, generates only $.73 for every dollar spent on federal land.”[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=silver][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] You mean like Harry Reid and his minion in the BLM selling off federal public lands to line their pockets? It is already happening. Actually the emboldened print is not an accurate statement as those federal lands were INTENDED to be sold off to fund the development of schools and colleges and other things needed to settle these lands. It was part of the agreement the Federal govt entered into with the states. On another site I shared an extensive amount of information and links to provide the facts behind the sale of those public lands. I was hoping this discussion could be a positive one without the usual rhetoric of lining pockets ect. I agree lets try to fix the system under this administration, but if the reality of "fixing" federal systems does not change, the question is at what point does one support something different? How does one "fix" the broken system? the links below shows how broken it actually is. Had the state assets been allowed to fly perhaps those fires would not have cost so much to put out. [URL]http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/montana-helicopters-sidelined-from-fighting-federal-fires/article_cdd084ed-dfdd-598b-9a42-ee822849595a.html[/URL] [URL]http://watchdog.org/235250/montana-wildfires/[/URL] And yet another example of how broken the system is. [url]http://www.denverpost.com/2014/10/17/can-states-manage-public-lands-better-than-the-federal-government-yes/[/url] [/QUOTE]
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