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<blockquote data-quote="gst" data-source="post: 153042" data-attributes="member: 373"><p>So the thread started out to get people to call about a bill. They did it worked. After that some talked baout how the system is broke and we should try to fix it. So a bill that is a step in that direction was provided asking for support of it. </p><p></p><p>Suddenly we find ourselves rehashing age old conversations where plainsman has been shown multiple times prior the actual history, Acts and court rulings of the day to substantiate what is being share along with the links to all that information. </p><p></p><p>Is it just that interesting to rehash all this or is there some other reason these threads end up there all the time? Why distract from the intent of trying to change how the Federal govt manages these lands?</p><p></p><p>Why try to derail that conversation? </p><p></p><p>Anyways lets get back to discussing actual ways to "fix" the system maybe plainsman will allow this one to continue. so once again.........here is the bill that is a start to do this. how many phone calls emails will be sent in support? </p><p></p><p>8 seems to be the site record...........</p><p></p><p>I'll make it easy. </p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.heitkamp.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/email-heidi" target="_blank">https://www.heitkamp.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/email-heidi</a></p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.hoeven.senate.gov/contact/email-the-senator" target="_blank">https://www.hoeven.senate.gov/contact/email-the-senator</a></p><p></p><p><a href="https://cramer.house.gov/contact/email-me" target="_blank">https://cramer.house.gov/contact/email-me</a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://gosar.house.gov/press-release/rep-gosar-cosponsors-bipartisan-legislation-reform-equal-access-justice-act" target="_blank">http://gosar.house.gov/press-release...ss-justice-act</a></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"> <table style='width: 100%'><tr><td><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #666666"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong>WASHINGTON, D.C. - Today, U.S. Congressman Paul A. Gosar, D.D.S. (AZ-04) released the following statement after joining five other original sponsors in introducing H.R. 3279, the Open Book on Equal Access to Justice Act, which aims to strengthen the Equal Access to Justice Act (EAJA) by reinstating the tracking and reporting requirements for how much money is being paid out by the federal government under this law:</strong></span></span><strong><strong><br /> <span style="color: #666666"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">“Given the rampant waste, fraud and abuse that has infected the federal government, increasing transparency of how taxpayer dollars are spent is more important than ever. The intent of the Equal Access to Justice Act was to help the average Joe fight back against an overreaching and oppressive federal government. Unfortunately, this well-intentioned law has been hijacked by environmentalists whose lawyers are billing taxpayers for rates as high as $750 an hour.”</span></span><br /> <span style="color: #666666"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">“Environmental groups have abused EAJA and used it as a money-making tool to advance their far left agenda. Our bipartisan bill will restore common sense to this law and crack down on these abuses.”</span></span></strong></strong></span></td></tr></table><p></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p>Here is a video of one of these groups that are using YOUR tax dollars to break the system. </p><p></p><p>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iil1Z8-A1GA&sns=tw</p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p>The Seirra Club likes the EAJA......</p><p></p><p>http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/energy-environment/220894-big-green-groups-have-self-serving-bargain-with</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">"[FONT=&quot]The multimillion-dollar Sierra Club Foundation is one of many organizations using the EAJA loophole. In the 55 trials linked between the Sierra Club and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), $2.4 million was given to cover lawyer fees and court costs. From 2000 to 2009, the Sierra Club requested fees in 194 cases and was awarded more than $19 million. No one knows the exact amount because in two of the cases, the reimbursement amount remains totally unreported.[/FONT]</span><span style="color: #2B2C30">[FONT=&quot]</span></p><p><span style="color: #2B2C30"></span></p><p><span style="color: #2B2C30">[/FONT]</span><span style="color: #2B2C30">[FONT=&quot]EAJA is also hurting average Americans. <span style="color: #ff0000">Tim Lequerica is a full-time rancher living on his 320-acre ranch in Malheur County, Ore.</span> His company holds a permit to graze 444 cattle on Bureau of Land Management (BLM) land and uses water from the protected Owyhee River. In 1998, two environmental groups found a BLM paperwork error and sued the BLM to review the grazing practices on Lequerica's allotment. They also sued the BLM for "fail[ing] to protect streams, fish, sage grouse, and other Owyhee resources" by allowing ranchers to use the river to water their cattle. The groups ultimately won their case, and Lequerica had to stop watering his cattle at the Owyhee, where his family had grazed and watered their cattle for nearly a century.[/FONT]</span></p><p><span style="color: #2B2C30">[FONT=&quot]In the end, Lequerica paid over $42,000 of his own money in legal fees fighting to protect his business. Those environmental groups, however, had their legal fees, totaling $128,000, voluntarily paid for by the government under EAJA.[/FONT]</span></p><p><span style="color: #2B2C30">[FONT=&quot]Lequerica said, "My tax money paid for every part of the litigation. I paid my personal attorneys to represent me. My tax dollars paid the federal government who failed to do all the paperwork correctly; and my tax dollars paid [the environmental groups] to sue the federal government." EAJA has become antithetical to its own name. It does not promote equal access to justice; rather, it promotes self-serving organizations' access to easy government money."[/FONT]</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p>Note the county in the above article. Wonder why people push back against these Federal agencies and the actions they take as a result of these law suits? </p><p></p><p>Who is willing to help fix this broken system?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gst, post: 153042, member: 373"] So the thread started out to get people to call about a bill. They did it worked. After that some talked baout how the system is broke and we should try to fix it. So a bill that is a step in that direction was provided asking for support of it. Suddenly we find ourselves rehashing age old conversations where plainsman has been shown multiple times prior the actual history, Acts and court rulings of the day to substantiate what is being share along with the links to all that information. Is it just that interesting to rehash all this or is there some other reason these threads end up there all the time? Why distract from the intent of trying to change how the Federal govt manages these lands? Why try to derail that conversation? Anyways lets get back to discussing actual ways to "fix" the system maybe plainsman will allow this one to continue. so once again.........here is the bill that is a start to do this. how many phone calls emails will be sent in support? 8 seems to be the site record........... I'll make it easy. [URL]https://www.heitkamp.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/email-heidi[/URL] [URL]https://www.hoeven.senate.gov/contact/email-the-senator[/URL] [URL]https://cramer.house.gov/contact/email-me[/URL] [URL="http://gosar.house.gov/press-release/rep-gosar-cosponsors-bipartisan-legislation-reform-equal-access-justice-act"]http://gosar.house.gov/press-release...ss-justice-act[/URL] [COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][TABLE="class: cms_table_cms_table, width: 0, align: center"] [TR] [TD][SIZE=4][COLOR=#666666][FONT=Arial][B]WASHINGTON, D.C. - Today, U.S. Congressman Paul A. Gosar, D.D.S. (AZ-04) released the following statement after joining five other original sponsors in introducing H.R. 3279, the Open Book on Equal Access to Justice Act, which aims to strengthen the Equal Access to Justice Act (EAJA) by reinstating the tracking and reporting requirements for how much money is being paid out by the federal government under this law:[/B][/FONT][/COLOR][B][B] [COLOR=#666666][FONT=Arial]“Given the rampant waste, fraud and abuse that has infected the federal government, increasing transparency of how taxpayer dollars are spent is more important than ever. The intent of the Equal Access to Justice Act was to help the average Joe fight back against an overreaching and oppressive federal government. Unfortunately, this well-intentioned law has been hijacked by environmentalists whose lawyers are billing taxpayers for rates as high as $750 an hour.”[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#666666][FONT=Arial]“Environmental groups have abused EAJA and used it as a money-making tool to advance their far left agenda. Our bipartisan bill will restore common sense to this law and crack down on these abuses.”[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/B][/SIZE][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] Here is a video of one of these groups that are using YOUR tax dollars to break the system. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iil1Z8-A1GA&sns=tw [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] The Seirra Club likes the EAJA...... http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/energy-environment/220894-big-green-groups-have-self-serving-bargain-with [COLOR=#ff0000] "[FONT="]The multimillion-dollar Sierra Club Foundation is one of many organizations using the EAJA loophole. In the 55 trials linked between the Sierra Club and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), $2.4 million was given to cover lawyer fees and court costs. From 2000 to 2009, the Sierra Club requested fees in 194 cases and was awarded more than $19 million. No one knows the exact amount because in two of the cases, the reimbursement amount remains totally unreported.[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#2B2C30][FONT="] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#2B2C30][FONT="]EAJA is also hurting average Americans. [COLOR=#ff0000]Tim Lequerica is a full-time rancher living on his 320-acre ranch in Malheur County, Ore.[/COLOR] His company holds a permit to graze 444 cattle on Bureau of Land Management (BLM) land and uses water from the protected Owyhee River. In 1998, two environmental groups found a BLM paperwork error and sued the BLM to review the grazing practices on Lequerica's allotment. They also sued the BLM for "fail[ing] to protect streams, fish, sage grouse, and other Owyhee resources" by allowing ranchers to use the river to water their cattle. The groups ultimately won their case, and Lequerica had to stop watering his cattle at the Owyhee, where his family had grazed and watered their cattle for nearly a century.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#2B2C30][FONT="]In the end, Lequerica paid over $42,000 of his own money in legal fees fighting to protect his business. Those environmental groups, however, had their legal fees, totaling $128,000, voluntarily paid for by the government under EAJA.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#2B2C30][FONT="]Lequerica said, "My tax money paid for every part of the litigation. I paid my personal attorneys to represent me. My tax dollars paid the federal government who failed to do all the paperwork correctly; and my tax dollars paid [the environmental groups] to sue the federal government." EAJA has become antithetical to its own name. It does not promote equal access to justice; rather, it promotes self-serving organizations' access to easy government money."[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] Note the county in the above article. Wonder why people push back against these Federal agencies and the actions they take as a result of these law suits? Who is willing to help fix this broken system? [/QUOTE]
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