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<blockquote data-quote="snow2" data-source="post: 492750" data-attributes="member: 7990"><p>Good for you couple great&nbsp; bird dogs.... spent many years upland&nbsp; birds,western&nbsp; states,Nebraska, Kansas&nbsp; eastern&nbsp; colorado,sharpies,prairie&nbsp; chickens, huns,quail&nbsp;&nbsp; over my goldens,trained&nbsp; to work close, crp and shelter belts shot my share over my swamp collies,old&nbsp; browning&nbsp; A-5&nbsp;&nbsp; 32&quot; barrel full fixed choke 3&quot; copper&nbsp; plated #4 15/8th loads lead,late season&nbsp; birds grouped up and been pushed for weeks get jumpy as stated above especially&nbsp; pheasants&nbsp; no truck door slamming, no dog whistle&nbsp; to warn em no yelling,coughing,etc quail&nbsp; would hold tight,late season&nbsp; roosters,sharpies no so much never had my boyz at heel&nbsp; just let them work&nbsp; cover,&nbsp; your pups will catch on just fine. Guyz hunting over pointers I watched&nbsp; late season&nbsp; struggled as hunted birds late season&nbsp; are educated&nbsp; run run run even in heavy&nbsp; crp, except in cattails where rooster held good.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="snow2, post: 492750, member: 7990"] Good for you couple great bird dogs.... spent many years upland birds,western states,Nebraska, Kansas eastern colorado,sharpies,prairie chickens, huns,quail over my goldens,trained to work close, crp and shelter belts shot my share over my swamp collies,old browning A-5 32" barrel full fixed choke 3" copper plated #4 15/8th loads lead,late season birds grouped up and been pushed for weeks get jumpy as stated above especially pheasants no truck door slamming, no dog whistle to warn em no yelling,coughing,etc quail would hold tight,late season roosters,sharpies no so much never had my boyz at heel just let them work cover, your pups will catch on just fine. Guyz hunting over pointers I watched late season struggled as hunted birds late season are educated run run run even in heavy crp, except in cattails where rooster held good. [/QUOTE]

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