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<blockquote data-quote="Whisky" data-source="post: 312682" data-attributes="member: 661">Lots and lots of options nowadays. I think you'd be fine in any 15-20 degree bag for Sept. I have bags from both Western Mountaineering and Big Agnes. Both companies offer models with a little bigger hip and toe box. Not a traditional UL mummy bag. That was a necessity for me.Big Agnes - the Mystic SL 15 has been around for a long&nbsp; time. ~$400ish. They have a new bag out that would offer even more room then the Mystic, Diamond Park 15. ~350ish. Don't know anything about the Diamond Park. The 20 degree model I have has been discontinued. IMO it was cold for the temp it was rated at. And I like to sleep cold. I think BA was known for that, maybe improved since then. Buy Once Cry Once - Western Mountaineering Badger MF. I have the Kodiak MF, they are nice bags. For Sept, the Kodiak would be too warm, as I learned last year in ID. Kelty, Marmot and Slumberjack are other brands I see recommended more than once. I know nothing about them. Stone Glacier and Kuiu make bags now too. Sleeping pad - get the warmest, lightest, biggest one you can get. I also have no idea what's out there nowadays for pads. I have an old Big Agnes and Neoair Xtherm. Shouldn't be too hard to find thorough reviews on new pads and bags.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Whisky, post: 312682, member: 661"] Lots and lots of options nowadays. I think you'd be fine in any 15-20 degree bag for Sept. I have bags from both Western Mountaineering and Big Agnes. Both companies offer models with a little bigger hip and toe box. Not a traditional UL mummy bag. That was a necessity for me. Big Agnes - the Mystic SL 15 has been around for a long time. ~$400ish. They have a new bag out that would offer even more room then the Mystic, Diamond Park 15. ~350ish. Don't know anything about the Diamond Park. The 20 degree model I have has been discontinued. IMO it was cold for the temp it was rated at. And I like to sleep cold. I think BA was known for that, maybe improved since then. Buy Once Cry Once - Western Mountaineering Badger MF. I have the Kodiak MF, they are nice bags. For Sept, the Kodiak would be too warm, as I learned last year in ID. Kelty, Marmot and Slumberjack are other brands I see recommended more than once. I know nothing about them. Stone Glacier and Kuiu make bags now too. Sleeping pad - get the warmest, lightest, biggest one you can get. I also have no idea what's out there nowadays for pads. I have an old Big Agnes and Neoair Xtherm. Shouldn't be too hard to find thorough reviews on new pads and bags. [/QUOTE]

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