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Message: <blockquote data-quote="midwesthunter" data-source="post: 255536" data-attributes="member: 4512">If you aren't having problems with access now what is going to change if the new law passes? The only difference I see is the new law would force hunters to contact the landowner about access. I think we can agree majority of the private land out west is currently posted now and we find access. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think the new law would prevent the landowners who don't want to deal with all the phone calls or people stopping in from putting their land into PLOTS. I think what they are trying to prevent with the new law is people tearing down no hunting signs, i didn't see that it was posted, or it wasn't posted properly. For most of us things won't change much. They are just trying to eliminate the excuse of careless hunters taking the signs down. With the new law there is no signs to take down. Is there a problem with the current law? No, as long as everyone abides by it.  It is tough to prove a sign was or wasn't there once law enforcement gets there so how do you fine someone for trespassing when you can't prove them 100% guilty. I recent lost a good chunk of ground hunting ground this year because an out of state hunter drove right passed the multiple no hunting signs the landowner had up. There is two ways to access this property by vehicle going through his yard or one other road from the back side. This hunter accessed it from the back side which was posted. When the landowner went in to feed his cows he found the hunter and was told by the hunter he didn't have his land legally posted and that he would sue him if he tried to press charges. I don't think the hunter had a leg to stand on in court but the landowner just decided to go strictly no hunting for anyone unless you want to pay. I am not a fan of paid hunting but that is a different discussion. I believe I would still have access to 1000s of acres of this landowners property if the new proposed law was in place. I also trap and it is required to have written permission from the landowner or operator regardless of if it is posted or not. Might be another reason the new law doesn't seem like such a bad thing for me one way or the other.- - - Updated - - -No I don't waterfowl hunt much but do on occasion. I ask for permission for everything that I think I might want to hunt/trap on their land when I ask. Maybe I do it differently than most. There is a ton of farm land in the SW corner of the state I contact dozens of landowners every year so generally if I see a deer, antelope, geese, ducks, coyote I already know if I can go after that animal or not. There are landowners who want to be called every time you want to hunt I generally stay away from them just to eliminate any confusion of I thought I had permission this weekend. Maybe where you are from this is how most of them are and yes I can see where it could be a problem getting permission the night before.</blockquote>

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