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<blockquote data-quote="gst" data-source="post: 193833" data-attributes="member: 373"><p>If one reads some of the comments below the article it seems to be working.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p><strong>"</strong><span style="color: #58595B"><span style="font-family: inherit"><strong>According to a deer farming insider,</strong> normal captive deer live for about 12 years while deer bred only for massive antlers usually die by age 7. Maybe it's too many steroids or food supplements? Maybe it's medication and living in a rarefied environment? Maybe it's donating more sperm than their bodies can handle.</span></span><span style="color: #58595B"><span style="font-family: inherit">My guess is it's the genetics. I'm no genetics expert, but breeding brothers to half sisters and mothers to sons and then back again can't be healthy.<strong> I've studied more than a few field champion pedigrees in my day and I've never seen "line" breeding like I see in the antler growing business.</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #58595B"><span style="font-family: inherit">Some of these breeders breed for antlers and don't seem to care much about how they get them. Frankenbucks are the products of excessive "<strong>line" breeding</strong>. They aren't bred for hybrid vigor, longevity or the ability to take on all comers and win breeding rights. They aren't bred for the ability to avoid hunters, live through a hard winter or to produce tastier venison."</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #58595B"><span style="font-family: inherit"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #58595B"><span style="font-family: inherit">Line One Hereford cattle have been around 80 some years. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: #58595B"><span style="font-family: inherit"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #58595B"><span style="font-family: inherit"><a href="https://agresearchmag.ars.usda.gov/2010/mar/hereford/" target="_blank">https://agresearchmag.ars.usda.gov/2010/mar/hereford/</a></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #58595B"><span style="font-family: inherit"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #58595B"><span style="font-family: inherit">Most any captive raised animal is genetically manipulated for one trait or another. even koi fish............. \wasn;t there someone on here that raises koi fish? </span></span></p><p><span style="color: #58595B"><span style="font-family: inherit"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #58595B"><span style="font-family: inherit">Another excellent article.........</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #58595B"><span style="font-family: inherit"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #58595B"><span style="font-family: inherit"><a href="http://money.cnn.com/2007/08/23/smbusiness/breeding_koi.fsb/" target="_blank">http://money.cnn.com/2007/08/23/smbusiness/breeding_koi.fsb/</a></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #58595B"><span style="font-family: inherit"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #58595B"><span style="font-family: inherit"><a href="https://pethelpful.com/fish-aquariums/Koi-Carp-An-Ancient-Long-Lived-Ornamental-Fish" target="_blank">https://pethelpful.com/fish-aquariums/Koi-Carp-An-Ancient-Long-Lived-Ornamental-Fish</a></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #58595B"><span style="font-family: inherit"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #58595B"><span style="font-family: inherit"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #4B4949"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><p style="text-align: center"><a href="https://pethelpful.com/fish-aquariums/Koi-Carp-An-Ancient-Long-Lived-Ornamental-Fish#" target="_blank"></a></p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: #4B4949"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><a href="https://pethelpful.com/fish-aquariums/Koi-Carp-An-Ancient-Long-Lived-Ornamental-Fish#" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://pethelpful.com/fish-aquariums/Koi-Carp-An-Ancient-Long-Lived-Ornamental-Fish#" target="_blank"></a></p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: #4B4949"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><a href="https://pethelpful.com/fish-aquariums/Koi-Carp-An-Ancient-Long-Lived-Ornamental-Fish#" target="_blank"></a></p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: #4B4949"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><hr /></p> <p style="text-align: center"><a href="https://pethelpful.com/fish-aquariums/Koi-Carp-An-Ancient-Long-Lived-Ornamental-Fish#" target="_blank"></a></p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: #4B4949"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><a href="https://pethelpful.com/fish-aquariums/Koi-Carp-An-Ancient-Long-Lived-Ornamental-Fish#" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://pethelpful.com/fish-aquariums/Koi-Carp-An-Ancient-Long-Lived-Ornamental-Fish#" target="_blank">56</a></p><p></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #888888"></span></p><p> <span style="color: #888888"></span></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: #888888"><a href="https://pethelpful.com/" target="_blank">PetHelpful</a>»</span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: #888888"><a href="https://pethelpful.com/fish-aquariums/" target="_blank">Fish & Aquariums</a></span></li> </ul><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Koi Carp: The Most Expensive Koi Fish Ever Sold</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>Koi Are Living Art</strong></p><p></p><p><img src="https://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/7901591_f520.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>Source</p><p><strong>Koi Fish</strong></p><p></p><p>From humble origins, the koi has come to be the most precious of all fish, the most beautiful specimens selling for up to $<span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>2.2 million.</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong></strong></span>Anyone here raise koi? </p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>Cattle and deer carry a number of the same diseases and an infect one another.</p><p></p><p>There is a lot that is not known about these prion diseases. Spontaneous occurance is a scientific theory as to how they occur. </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Roboto'">The most common form of classic CJD is believed to occur sporadically, caused by the <strong>spontaneous</strong> transformation of normal <strong>prion</strong> proteins into abnormal <strong>prions</strong>. ... The risk of CJD increases with age, and in persons aged over 50 years of age, the annual rate is approximately 3.4 cases per million.<span style="color: #777777">Mar 17, 2017</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Roboto'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Roboto'"><strong><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/prions/cjd/occurrence-transmission.html" target="_blank">Occurrence and Transmission | Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, Classic ...</a></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Roboto'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Roboto'"><span style="color: #545454"><span style="color: #808080">https://www.cdc.gov/prions/cjd/occurrence-transmission.html</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Roboto'"><span style="color: #545454"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Roboto'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Roboto'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Roboto'"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gst, post: 193833, member: 373"] If one reads some of the comments below the article it seems to be working. [COLOR=silver][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] [B]"[/B][COLOR=#58595B][FONT='inherit'][B]According to a deer farming insider,[/B] normal captive deer live for about 12 years while deer bred only for massive antlers usually die by age 7. Maybe it's too many steroids or food supplements? Maybe it's medication and living in a rarefied environment? Maybe it's donating more sperm than their bodies can handle.[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#58595B][FONT='inherit']My guess is it's the genetics. I'm no genetics expert, but breeding brothers to half sisters and mothers to sons and then back again can't be healthy.[B] I've studied more than a few field champion pedigrees in my day and I've never seen "line" breeding like I see in the antler growing business.[/B][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#58595B][FONT='inherit']Some of these breeders breed for antlers and don't seem to care much about how they get them. Frankenbucks are the products of excessive "[B]line" breeding[/B]. They aren't bred for hybrid vigor, longevity or the ability to take on all comers and win breeding rights. They aren't bred for the ability to avoid hunters, live through a hard winter or to produce tastier venison." Line One Hereford cattle have been around 80 some years. [URL]https://agresearchmag.ars.usda.gov/2010/mar/hereford/[/URL] Most any captive raised animal is genetically manipulated for one trait or another. even koi fish............. \wasn;t there someone on here that raises koi fish? Another excellent article......... [URL]http://money.cnn.com/2007/08/23/smbusiness/breeding_koi.fsb/[/URL] [URL]https://pethelpful.com/fish-aquariums/Koi-Carp-An-Ancient-Long-Lived-Ornamental-Fish[/URL] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#4B4949][FONT=Arial][CENTER][URL="https://pethelpful.com/fish-aquariums/Koi-Carp-An-Ancient-Long-Lived-Ornamental-Fish#"] [/URL][URL="https://pethelpful.com/fish-aquariums/Koi-Carp-An-Ancient-Long-Lived-Ornamental-Fish#"] [/URL] [HR][/HR][URL="https://pethelpful.com/fish-aquariums/Koi-Carp-An-Ancient-Long-Lived-Ornamental-Fish#"] [/URL][URL="https://pethelpful.com/fish-aquariums/Koi-Carp-An-Ancient-Long-Lived-Ornamental-Fish#"]56[/URL][/CENTER] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#888888] [LIST] [*][URL="https://pethelpful.com/"]PetHelpful[/URL]» [*][URL="https://pethelpful.com/fish-aquariums/"]Fish & Aquariums[/URL] [/LIST] [/COLOR] [B]Koi Carp: The Most Expensive Koi Fish Ever Sold[/B] [B]Koi Are Living Art[/B] [IMG]https://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/7901591_f520.jpg[/IMG] Source [B]Koi Fish[/B] From humble origins, the koi has come to be the most precious of all fish, the most beautiful specimens selling for up to $[SIZE=4][B]2.2 million. [/B][/SIZE]Anyone here raise koi? [COLOR=silver][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] Cattle and deer carry a number of the same diseases and an infect one another. There is a lot that is not known about these prion diseases. Spontaneous occurance is a scientific theory as to how they occur. [FONT=Roboto]The most common form of classic CJD is believed to occur sporadically, caused by the [B]spontaneous[/B] transformation of normal [B]prion[/B] proteins into abnormal [B]prions[/B]. ... The risk of CJD increases with age, and in persons aged over 50 years of age, the annual rate is approximately 3.4 cases per million.[COLOR=#777777]Mar 17, 2017[/COLOR] [/FONT] [FONT=Roboto][B][URL="https://www.cdc.gov/prions/cjd/occurrence-transmission.html"]Occurrence and Transmission | Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, Classic ...[/URL][/B] [COLOR=#545454][COLOR=#808080]https://www.cdc.gov/prions/cjd/occurrence-transmission.html[/COLOR] [/COLOR] [/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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