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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fritz the Cat" data-source="post: 193855" data-attributes="member: 605">Anyone can read Prairie Ghost but how many know where he is coming from? The North American Wildlife Conservation Model is America's history. By 1880 the buffalo, elk, deer and many species were in decline. Efforts were made to eliminate markets, protect and preserve game. Laws were enacted that you have to purchase a license etc. Things are much better today. I can think of no one selling eagle feathers or poached deer meat. In the 1990's Geist from Communist East Germany living in Canada and Shane Mahoney wrote The North American "Model" of Wildlife Conservation. Clever.......they changed a couple words around. There are seven platforms to their NAMWC manifesto. In this thread Prairie Ghost is talking about Manifesto platform number two. Markets for Game are eliminated. They give a summary of the past and of course we all concur no one should be killing/selling a public resource for feathers or meat or antlers. But then they make a giant leap. Current Status, Threats, and Challenges.— Commercial trade for reptiles, amphibians, and fish is thriving (Nanjappa and Conrad 2011). In addition, some game species that we would expect to fall under the principles of the Model are actively traded. Deer (Odocoileus spp.), elk, ring-necked pheasants (Phasianus colchicus), quail, chukar (Alectoris chukar), and more exotic wildlife species are commonly bought and sold (Freese and Trauger 2000). Related to wildlife markets are contests and tournaments common in rural areas of the country. Big buck contests, coyote hunts, crow (Corvus spp.) hunts, and numerous other commercial contests imply a market-based hunting situation. The sale of furbearers, seal (Phocidae) fur, antlers, reproduced antlers, and a variety of other wildlife parts needs to be considered in light of the principle that markets for wildlife are eliminated. A robust market for access to wildlife occurring across the U.S. and Canada exists in the form of leases, reserved permits, and shooting preserves. <a href="http://wildlife.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/North-American-model-of-Wildlife-Conservation.pdf" target="_blank">http://wildlife.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/North-American-model-of-Wildlife-Conservation.pdf</a> So here is the question PG, when are you most civilized elitists planning to shut down shooting preserves raising pen raised birds for sport? The second platform of the NAMWC manifesto commands you to do it. In a Capitalist Society, if your company is producing widgets for a dollar while ten other companies are selling the same for fifty cents , you're either going to get competitive or get out. Valerius Geist grew up in Communist East Germany where government regulation and enforcement were used to kill other widget makers deemed competition. There's enough room here for everyone to co-exist. </blockquote>

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