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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fritz the Cat" data-source="post: 193891" data-attributes="member: 605">PG has consistently been opposed to any guiding because it is the commercialization of wildlife. Part of the NAMWC:Current Status, Threats, and Challenges.— Commercial trade for reptiles, amphibians, and fish is thriving (Nanjappa and Conrad 2011). In addition, some game species that we would expect to fall under the principles of the Model are actively traded. Deer (Odocoileus spp.), elk, ring-necked pheasants (Phasianus colchicus), quail, chukar (Alectoris chukar), and more exotic wildlife species are commonly bought and sold (Freese and Trauger 2000). Related to wildlife markets are contests and tournaments common in rural areas of the country. Big buck contests, coyote hunts, crow (Corvus spp.) hunts, and numerous other commercial contests imply a market-based hunting situation. The sale of furbearers, seal (Phocidae) fur, antlers, reproduced antlers, and a variety of other wildlife parts needs to be considered in light of the principle that markets for wildlife are eliminated. A robust market for access to wildlife occurring across the U.S. and Canada exists in the form of leases, reserved permits, and shooting preserves. Markets for Game are Eliminated. And that includes private property on private property. No guiding. In 2005 PG attended the wildlife society meeting where Geist talked about his North American "Model" of Wildlife Conservation and two fellows were brought up from South Dakota Game and Fish who were very opposed to bird shooting preserves. This "Model" isn't about our history or success in the last one hundred years. It's about eliminating markets for todays farmed game. Of course they blur straight lines by talking about banning shooting one hundred buffalo per day or banning spotlighting and then make this giant leap to eliminate markets for shooting preserves on an animal/bird that is privately owned. That is why I keep asking PG when are his people planning to take away "hunting" a bird on a shooting preserve? I'll answer it, not in the near future because they have taken on enough unpopular shit in the last couple years. PG was a sponsor of the fair chase folly back in 2008. They sought to take away a market or eliminate high fence hunting. They lost three times. The people have spoken. For the sake of argument let's say they had won. Would they be satisfied, placated, done? It passed in Montana back in 2000. How's that working? Recently Arby's did a venison steak sandwich. The Montana Wildlife Federation showed its true colors sending a letter to Arby's admonishing them to discontinue it because it may make elk farms profitable. Christ, they would even deny them a meat market. Never mind that the meat came from New Zealand red deer. These debates aren't about ethics or disease. It's about eliminating markets or avenues to markets there-by strangling an industry or several non-traditional livestock industries. And then using government enforcement against private property.  This shit is so un-American.  </blockquote>

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