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<blockquote data-quote="Traxion" data-source="post: 403859" data-attributes="member: 983">Thanks for the ideas and help!&nbsp; I have about 40 acres that I hope to convert fully in the next 10 years.&nbsp; Add on to the existing rows as stated with about 8 rows wide.&nbsp; Polinator plot, another 20 of grass and some foot plots.&nbsp; That isn't immediate though.&nbsp; The other areas I want to do aren't tilled (old farmyard and machinery areas) but I am going to see where we'd be with the Conservation Service.&nbsp; The remaining rows will just be hand plants and supplementing spots here and there.&nbsp; If we can get some small boxes of trees and shrubs to hold a few birds that is fine.&nbsp; Our 5 row was planted in the early 2000's right before things got really dry.&nbsp; It's pathetic to say the least and never really took off.&nbsp; I'm nervous about the same thing happening again.&nbsp; It has fabric on all rows....yet some of the cedars are still 16&quot; tall.&nbsp; Never got enough moisture to get going.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Traxion, post: 403859, member: 983"] Thanks for the ideas and help! I have about 40 acres that I hope to convert fully in the next 10 years. Add on to the existing rows as stated with about 8 rows wide. Polinator plot, another 20 of grass and some foot plots. That isn't immediate though. The other areas I want to do aren't tilled (old farmyard and machinery areas) but I am going to see where we'd be with the Conservation Service. The remaining rows will just be hand plants and supplementing spots here and there. If we can get some small boxes of trees and shrubs to hold a few birds that is fine. Our 5 row was planted in the early 2000's right before things got really dry. It's pathetic to say the least and never really took off. I'm nervous about the same thing happening again. It has fabric on all rows....yet some of the cedars are still 16" tall. Never got enough moisture to get going. [/QUOTE]

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