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<blockquote data-quote="Retired Educator" data-source="post: 248962" data-attributes="member: 3373"><p>I am not in favor of a change from what we currently have. Let's make that clear. At the same time we all know it's going to come someday. Why does it fall on the landowner to bear the expense and time to post their land. It's not ours no matter how much we protest. </p><p></p><p>If we can get this stopped this session it's going to come up again in the next session. If it is stopped this session perhaps we would be better off working with the landowners to come up with a solution that everyone can live with. A data system may not be a bad idea if we could spend the next two years completing the app. Testing to make sure it's workable, and then have a well-written change that is ready to use.</p><p></p><p>If a data system isn't feasible then let's come up with something that is. I have hunted in Sssk. and where I hunted (waterfowl), every municipality (smaller than a county but bigger than townships) had maps available with the landowner name. It wasn't difficult finding the landowners at all. The most difficulty was if they were still harvesting, contacting them without interrupting their work. Stop at the nearest farm and ask for directions was usually sufficient. One time received permission from a nice lady only to find out the next day that her and her husband didn't own the field we were asking about. They owned the next quarter south. Landowner showed up the next day as we were picking up and was very understanding after we explained what had happened. Wasn't overly happy but understood it was an honest mistake. Didn't dare ask for permission for the next day though. The municipality maps are relatively inexpensive compared to county atlases. Last ones I've purchased were about $7 each.</p><p></p><p>If we get this stopped this session and don't help write our own version of a bill the next session we are going to be pissed all over again with no one to blame other than ourselves. In my mind the one solution that would work for both sides is 1) no posting necessary with 2) a good data system to identify and contact proper landowners/operators. One without the other does nothing for either side. Keep it simple for both landowners and sportsman. </p><p></p><p>I have found over the years that I prefer actually visiting with landowners personally than doing everything over the phone. Relationships develop much better in person. Sometimes I've received permission over the phone and then stopped in after the hunt to thank and visit. One of the problems with writing in a rule of written permission is "you may be turned down because the owner does not want to be bothered when busy to write out a permission slip." Imagine stopping a combine to ask permission and then take the person's time to write it out. Let's make sense and keep it easy.</p><p></p><p>I'll quit here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Retired Educator, post: 248962, member: 3373"] I am not in favor of a change from what we currently have. Let's make that clear. At the same time we all know it's going to come someday. Why does it fall on the landowner to bear the expense and time to post their land. It's not ours no matter how much we protest. If we can get this stopped this session it's going to come up again in the next session. If it is stopped this session perhaps we would be better off working with the landowners to come up with a solution that everyone can live with. A data system may not be a bad idea if we could spend the next two years completing the app. Testing to make sure it's workable, and then have a well-written change that is ready to use. If a data system isn't feasible then let's come up with something that is. I have hunted in Sssk. and where I hunted (waterfowl), every municipality (smaller than a county but bigger than townships) had maps available with the landowner name. It wasn't difficult finding the landowners at all. The most difficulty was if they were still harvesting, contacting them without interrupting their work. Stop at the nearest farm and ask for directions was usually sufficient. One time received permission from a nice lady only to find out the next day that her and her husband didn't own the field we were asking about. They owned the next quarter south. Landowner showed up the next day as we were picking up and was very understanding after we explained what had happened. Wasn't overly happy but understood it was an honest mistake. Didn't dare ask for permission for the next day though. The municipality maps are relatively inexpensive compared to county atlases. Last ones I've purchased were about $7 each. If we get this stopped this session and don't help write our own version of a bill the next session we are going to be pissed all over again with no one to blame other than ourselves. In my mind the one solution that would work for both sides is 1) no posting necessary with 2) a good data system to identify and contact proper landowners/operators. One without the other does nothing for either side. Keep it simple for both landowners and sportsman. I have found over the years that I prefer actually visiting with landowners personally than doing everything over the phone. Relationships develop much better in person. Sometimes I've received permission over the phone and then stopped in after the hunt to thank and visit. One of the problems with writing in a rule of written permission is "you may be turned down because the owner does not want to be bothered when busy to write out a permission slip." Imagine stopping a combine to ask permission and then take the person's time to write it out. Let's make sense and keep it easy. I'll quit here. [/QUOTE]
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