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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SLE" data-source="post: 363300" data-attributes="member: 3889">I would agree to disagree, some machines are simply built better and there's no way around it. The major brands are certainly better than the off brands like odes and such but that's not saying any are super steller, especially with them costing damn near what a small pickup costs.Frankly, to this day I do not understand why these manufactures keep stuffing these UTV's with shitty 2 cyl. power sports engines coupled up with CVT clutches? They run like trash, are not that smooth, most are hard pressed to see 10k miles if your lucky with out some major work, and overall the reliability sucks. And really, the only reason I can see is for packaging and weight, all to net what, 100-110 hp at the most unless you get a performance turbo machine. I mean would anybody really give a shit if there Ranger or UTV weighed another 500 lbs if it meant you got an actual automotive style engine and transmission? I know I would be the first in line and I don't think it would be a weight penilty to go that route,  if so only because of getting a real transmission instead of a shitty CVT that'll need work before you get to 5k miles. Heck, a 2.0L ecoboost makes 250hp and 270 ft lbs of torque and weighs only 330lbs dry. Even the 1.0L Eco-boost kicks out 125hp and 200 ft lbs of torque and tips the scales a a messily 215lbs. I feel like SxS / UTV owners have been getting screwed for a long time considering what you get for the $$$.</blockquote>

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