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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dean nelson" data-source="post: 120749" data-attributes="member: 1305">Your absolutely correct on the idiotic moves from both sides and I have been down on the front lines for about a some total of 30 hours total. Went and walked around the camp and up the hill. Wanted to here what they had to say and to see the overall breakdown on who really is peaceful and who isn't. That was about three weeks or so ago so not sure how it is now but back then it was clear most of the hard core rhetoric was being pushed by outsiders many of them white. Overall I learned that the vast majority were peaceful but insanely uninformed. As to what to do...they need to start standing up to the threat and try and arrest as many as they can so that the restraining order grows some legs. I fully understand that it's a crazy hard balancing act on how hard you push forward so as not to trigger them into going batshit crazy. But this do nothing bull shit has allowed this fire to grow out of control and get so large that when it comes time for action they are in for a drastically harder fight now then what it would have been if they would have nipt it in the bud earlier.- - - Updated - - -I don't think it's DOA simply because they ran a shitload of pipe in the ground well they could and are continuing to work everywhere else other than the Crossing so the government would be in for a big f****** bill if they try to stop them completely. Now the crossing is very possibly dead and why they made the 20 mile rule so as to aid in rerouting to the north someplace.  I have to believe though that the east side is long since in since that's were that leg started.</blockquote>

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