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<blockquote data-quote="pluckem" data-source="post: 121945" data-attributes="member: 843"><p>Yeah I have heard every excuse there is defending why they didn't participate in the planning of this. I believe if they did participate this would not be happening right now. They would have chosen a different route. It still comes down to $$ and DAPL has lost a ton of money with the delays and current situation. If these protests happened a year ago or if there was input from SR early on, the financials would have led them to a reroute.</p><p></p><p>That isn't going to happen now with pipe upstream and downstream of the crossing already in the ground. Too much money. </p><p></p><p>From a pipeline integrity standpoint, sabotage has to be a major concern. Most of these rioters really don't care about the earth or a spill. In there eyes if this pipeline starts leaking it proves them all right and gets revenge. I am guessing DAPL will have to spend millions and millions in added Quality Checks and Inspectors. They can not afford to have the pipeline leak.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It might help with some people, but lets be honest. Facts and engineering details of the pipeline will change zero minds at the camp. Everything is a "lie" "made up" "propaganda". Facts are not going to change what's going on.</p><p></p><p>But your right, for rational thinking people some facts or maybe easier access to the decisions and facts would be nice. It just isn't going to stop what's going on.</p><p></p><p>I am sure most of the information you are looking for was shared and discussed during the public meetings and planning process. I would like to see a nice spreadsheet of all the documented comments they received by stakeholders and landowners with the resolution or response to each concern/question in the cell next to the comments. This would show and prove they went through the process with the right intentions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pluckem, post: 121945, member: 843"] Yeah I have heard every excuse there is defending why they didn't participate in the planning of this. I believe if they did participate this would not be happening right now. They would have chosen a different route. It still comes down to $$ and DAPL has lost a ton of money with the delays and current situation. If these protests happened a year ago or if there was input from SR early on, the financials would have led them to a reroute. That isn't going to happen now with pipe upstream and downstream of the crossing already in the ground. Too much money. From a pipeline integrity standpoint, sabotage has to be a major concern. Most of these rioters really don't care about the earth or a spill. In there eyes if this pipeline starts leaking it proves them all right and gets revenge. I am guessing DAPL will have to spend millions and millions in added Quality Checks and Inspectors. They can not afford to have the pipeline leak. [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] It might help with some people, but lets be honest. Facts and engineering details of the pipeline will change zero minds at the camp. Everything is a "lie" "made up" "propaganda". Facts are not going to change what's going on. But your right, for rational thinking people some facts or maybe easier access to the decisions and facts would be nice. It just isn't going to stop what's going on. I am sure most of the information you are looking for was shared and discussed during the public meetings and planning process. I would like to see a nice spreadsheet of all the documented comments they received by stakeholders and landowners with the resolution or response to each concern/question in the cell next to the comments. This would show and prove they went through the process with the right intentions. [/QUOTE]
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