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<blockquote data-quote="guywhofishes" data-source="post: 55316" data-attributes="member: 337">I saw this brought up in other thread - thought it deserved its own thread.I initially trained Royce using a whistle but I would invariably forget it in the house, in the truck, etc. so I slowly went to voice. Each year he gets better and better with voice commands, he heels (slows down or comes back to within range), etc. Not great - but also not &quot;take his unlistening butt home and leave it there&quot; level either. He very much enjoys being out and being in on the hunt and stays engaged for hours&nbsp; - until he's blown and tired - but even then he stays engaged but ranges far less and puts his nose into much less. He &quot;gets it&quot; and you can tell he wants success.Is it too late to switch back to non-voice? I don't want to be &quot;that guy&quot; scaring pheasants for my group by hollering &quot;Royce!&quot;, &quot;heel&quot; or &quot;whoa!&quot; when he ranges off too far or I need him to switch sides or range to a friend's thick patch while I am in thin cover.So... pea whistle? No pea? Or go &quot;stealth&quot; with the TT collar that beeps or vibrates? It seems like a potential hassle to have to use your hands to hit a controller.If I do switch - how? Voice and whistle together until he realizes it's the new language?Please discuss. I would like to learn.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="guywhofishes, post: 55316, member: 337"] I saw this brought up in other thread - thought it deserved its own thread. I initially trained Royce using a whistle but I would invariably forget it in the house, in the truck, etc. so I slowly went to voice. Each year he gets better and better with voice commands, he heels (slows down or comes back to within range), etc. Not great - but also not "take his unlistening butt home and leave it there" level either. He very much enjoys being out and being in on the hunt and stays engaged for hours - until he's blown and tired - but even then he stays engaged but ranges far less and puts his nose into much less. He "gets it" and you can tell he wants success. Is it too late to switch back to non-voice? I don't want to be "that guy" scaring pheasants for my group by hollering "Royce!", "heel" or "whoa!" when he ranges off too far or I need him to switch sides or range to a friend's thick patch while I am in thin cover. So... pea whistle? No pea? Or go "stealth" with the TT collar that beeps or vibrates? It seems like a potential hassle to have to use your hands to hit a controller. If I do switch - how? Voice and whistle together until he realizes it's the new language? Please discuss. I would like to learn. [/QUOTE]

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