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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wildeyes" data-source="post: 55345" data-attributes="member: 452"><p>guywholookingforacollar, My first dog no collar was talking to that dog all day long. 2nd dog started out with no collar for the first 2 years then put the collar on  mainly the beep feature (only had to use the shock once ) mainly bought it because was around roads that had traffic. Found out it got quiet with the collar no more talking to the dog. 3rd dog don't have to say much just switch direction or when the dog looks at me can point in the direction need to go. I can tell you it depends a lot on the dog. I hunt Labs mainly (ONLY)  I had a friend with a Gordon setter and if the dog didn't have a collar with high voltage you wouldn't be able to keep up. the part for me is you have to be careful with the shocking you could take some of the drive if you are not careful. It does depend on the personally of the dog. My two-cents Randy you can do what you what.</p></blockquote><p></p>

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